Anyone miss heel and toe / rev matched shifting gears in CC Box?

[rossyl]

Just wondered if people missed a manual box for heel and toe and rev-matched downshifting, as well as smooth upshifting when compared with the CC box?

I think there is an auto-blip on downshifting in sport at certain revs, but I don't think it works in the same way.

Both when downshifting and upshifting I've not found it as smooth in a CC box as you can get it in a manual.

Thoughts?

 

[CatmanV2]

I don't miss it, I never learned how to heel and toe

Equally, I don't miss the manual changing of gears very much. I don't find the CC box at all harsh, unless I'm being spirited. And I suspect I'd be no smoother in a manual box.
Maybe my CC is just jolly smooth

C

 

[Grinzzz]

Love being able to heel and toe correctly and get revs matched pretty well. Clutch cover went on a car once and had to drive back home with no clutch. Other than starting off it was no problem, wifelet thought the clutch had fixed itself it was that smooth. Hours spent practicing clutchless power changes in hire cars really paid off!

 

[rossyl]

Love being able to heel and toe correctly and get revs matched pretty well. Clutch cover went on a car once and had to drive back home with no clutch. Other than starting off it was no problem, wifelet thought the clutch had fixed itself it was that smooth. Hours spent practicing clutchless power changes in hire cars really paid off!

So Grinnzzz do you not miss it in the CC?


C - I can't do them either, but I'm learning.

 

[2b1ask1]

I rearly used a clutch on the bikes but sequential boxes are easy I guess. I have never tried heel & toe, never felt the need. I suppose my experience is far more toward extreme off road techniques....

 

[CatmanV2]

I rearly used a clutch on the bikes but sequential boxes are easy I guess. I have never tried heel & toe, never felt the need. I suppose my experience is far more toward extreme off road techniques....

Yeah, I used to forgo clutch on the bikes. Upshift, at least.

C

 

[BennyD]

I still do. I always used to double declutch and matched revs down shifts, I was really very good at them in my youth. Ever since i got my CC I have regarded a clutch as a throw-back to a darker time. Don't miss it for a second.

 

[Grinzzz]

So Grinnzzz do you not miss it in the CC?

Not really. The engine is perfect for an auto clutch, it's got such a flat torque curve. Surprised me how good the combination is when I first drove one. Besides I have bimmers and the c1 to indulge me.

 

[TridentTested]

Yeah, I used to forgo clutch on the bikes. Upshift, at least.

C

It's one of the many pleasures of biking; slight upward pressure on the gear lever, imperceptible roll-off on the throttle, imperceptible roll-on and when done right you can only tell you're in another gear by the change in revs.


What I do miss with the Duo-Select is the ease of parking manoeuvres with a manual box. On level ground I would normally manoeuvre a manual car around a parking space without the need to touch the throttle, do it smoothly enough and you hardly need to touch the brake either. I wish it had a conventional clutch pedal just for these occasions.

 

[GransportFan1]

Always heel and toe in the Punto, drop it into 3rd approaching a roundabout, little blip of the throttle to keep the revs at around 3800, "chuck" it in, as soon as the exit is in sight hit the accelerator and away we go, the little 16V absolutely sings past 4.5k rpm; for a bog standard car it has a great sound track and sounds much more exciting than any over my friend's cars. I find it quite satisfying perfecting gear changes and not sure i would ever convert to preferring an auto over a manual.

 

[rossyl]

I've been in a 100bhp Panda, driven by someone who teaches people on track days, and it just flew!

 

[Grinzzz]

Our 67bhp C1 can really go some round the islands in MK, sod all acceleration but once you've reached a speed you can maintain it much easier. Lightweights win in cornering every time!

 

[GransportFan1]

I've been in a 100bhp Panda, driven by someone who teaches people on track days, and it just flew!

That was the car i always wanted for my first car but a good one at the time was £4500, i paid £2500 for the Punto, same engine as the Panda (1.4 16V 99hp/100ps) with 48k miles.