Death of a Kangoo?

[daverichardson]

Well it seems pretty terminal to me.
The 2001 Kangoo +150,000 miles has finally collapsed on the drivers side rear and it appears as though the Torsion Rod system has fractured right in the wheel. estimated cost for renewal/replacement plus shock absorbers etc is +£600 which is a lot more than the car is worth. I used it for transporting small machinery (lawnmowers etc) around and I no longer do this and I do not really need two cars. There is the rub
I will be left with the QP only and am wondering if this is a wise position to be in. The Renault did all the mundane mileage and it owed me nothing given its history.
I no longer do the miles I used to and the QP is insured for up to 5000 miles p.a.. It has presently clocked up 63,000 miles
Insurance and Tax refunds would be forthcoming if I scrap the Renault
So should I fix the Renault or replace it with a banger and unknown problems or just have the QP?
Decisions decisions
Thoughts are welcome

 

[Swedish Paul]

Better the devil you know. Although 600 quid can buy a lot of car...

 

[2b1ask1]

Bangernomics right there, I’d probably try parts shark etc. To see what the second hand parts would set you back and re-evaluate.

 

[philw696]

If your handy with the spanners you could sort cheaply.
I always like to have a cheap and cheerful side kick on standby.
Best I ever had was my £300 BMW M3.

 

[zagatoes30]

Better the devil you know, you could spend £600 on another bangor and then get additional costs for stuff you don't know about. Missing my banger, use to always have one on the fleet

 

[daverichardson]

Sad to say the Kangoo has gone to the great Renault resting place.
17 years, 150,000 miles, work, holidays, hospitals (don't like that bit) lots of children in there. many many adventures.
The Torsion bar had snapped in the rear wheel and it was not economic to repair, alongside gearbox problems and ignition key problems


Really sad to see it go. Now to reclaim Tax and Insurance.

 

[philw696]

I would have kept it as Greenhouse.

 

[GeoffCapes]

Well it seems pretty terminal to me.
The 2001 Kangoo +150,000 miles has finally collapsed on the drivers side rear and it appears as though the Torsion Rod system has fractured right in the wheel. estimated cost for renewal/replacement plus shock absorbers etc is +£600 which is a lot more than the car is worth. I used it for transporting small machinery (lawnmowers etc) around and I no longer do this and I do not really need two cars. There is the rub
I will be left with the QP only and am wondering if this is a wise position to be in. The Renault did all the mundane mileage and it owed me nothing given its history.
I no longer do the miles I used to and the QP is insured for up to 5000 miles p.a.. It has presently clocked up 63,000 miles
Insurance and Tax refunds would be forthcoming if I scrap the Renault
So should I fix the Renault or replace it with a banger and unknown problems or just have the QP?
Decisions decisions
Thoughts are welcome

My dad has a Vauxhall Vectra V6 Estate up for £600. He's had it since new. It's done just over 100k. Everyone moves out of the way on the motorways when they see it as it's white and they think it's a plod car!

 

[daverichardson]

I would have kept it as Greenhouse.

Now you tell me!

 

[D Walker]

Was going to say you can have my Golf but it's just stood me £800 for service, discs pads and callipers all round.

 

[daverichardson]

Yeah
I am now in a forced predicament.
Stay as a one car owner or get some sort of banger.
The QP has done almost 69,000 miles faultlessly but will obviously become my daily driver.
I am only insured for 5000 miles (?) anyway.
Being old I don't get out much!
Also thinking about buying a newer lower mileage QP as a replacement which will see my driving days out he said innocently

 

[tan55555]

The other option for a car that is very cheap to run is to go for an electric one. I have a Mercedes B250e which I use alongside the 4200. Perfect for short runs, is actually very fun to drive, £0 tax, 3p a mile for electricity, cheap insurance and servicing. They have a Tesla motor and Tesla battery and very few were ever made. Cost £35k new, here is a fully loaded 2015 with 6,500 miles on the clock for £15,500. I think when people start wanting a Tesla 3 the price of these used will actually rise there are so few around (Only 141 on the road according to www.howmayleft.co.uk). OK, a lot more to spend than a few hundred quid to buy, but might cost you less in total over a few years. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

 

[hoyin]

The other option for a car that is very cheap to run is to go for an electric one. I have a Mercedes B250e which I use alongside the 4200. Perfect for short runs, is actually very fun to drive, £0 tax, 3p a mile for electricity, cheap insurance and servicing. They have a Tesla motor and Tesla battery and very few were ever made. Cost £35k new, here is a fully loaded 2015 with 6,500 miles on the clock for £15,500. I think when people start wanting a Tesla 3 the price of these used will actually rise there are so few around (Only 141 on the road according to www.howmayleft.co.uk). OK, a lot more to spend than a few hundred quid to buy, but might cost you less in total over a few years. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

Wow. Didn’t even know a car like this existed.

How much does it cost to charge and what is the range? I assume whilst it has a Tesla motor and battery it doesn’t have the Tesla tech though?


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[Corranga]

That Merc is really interesting and I can see the appeal.

The Nissan dealer relatively close to me, a year or so ago was doing used Nissan Leaf with free charger port fitment for about £7.5-8k depending on colour / spec. I didn't realise how good a deal it was at the time and possibly should have taken the leap then. Looks like you can't get an approved used one for that now. Not that I'm saying a Leaf is a particularly great car or anything, but it'd suit me for commuting I think and would be a nice cheap way to experience the potential future!

 

[mjheathcote]

Wow. Didn’t even know a car like this existed.

How much does it cost to charge and what is the range? I assume whilst it has a Tesla motor and battery it doesn’t have the Tesla tech though?


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Ditto!

 

[tan55555]

I took the plunge about 18 months ago and have loved this car. 177 bhp and 250lb torque so feels very quick. Has self park, but not autopilot. In good weather can do 100 miles on a charge which costs £3 of electricity. The mobile app lets you prewarm or precool the car which is lovely in winter. I bought it from Mercedes as their ex demonstrator with 400 miles on the clock for £19k. The only Achilles heel is the lack of a fast charge facility, but I've never needed this.

 

[hoyin]

I took the plunge about 18 months ago and have loved this car. 177 bhp and 250lb torque so feels very quick. Has self park, but not autopilot. In good weather can do 100 miles on a charge which costs £3 of electricity. The mobile app lets you prewarm or precool the car which is lovely in winter. I bought it from Mercedes as their ex demonstrator with 400 miles on the clock for £19k. The only Achilles heel is the lack of a fast charge facility, but I've never needed this.

Interesting.

But only 100 miles before you need to charge and no quick charge?

So really only usable as a city car. Or daily run about.

How much can a leaf do?

I really hate the ride quality in the Prius though. It is so stiff and uncomfortable. Is the merc and leaf better?


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[tan55555]

The leaf was ok, but the mercedes is in another league handling and ride wise. When I got it I was worried about the range, but it amazing how rarely I need more than the 100 miles before plugging it in back at home overnight. I usually only charge it once a week.

 

[TridentTested]

Better the devil you know. Although 600 quid can buy a lot of car...

Bangernomics is hard to get right. I co-owned a €300 Saab 9000 we kept in the Alps as a winter car. When it developed an intermittent ignition fault we should have walked away from it but foolishly spent valuable days in scrap yards trying to source bits, had it towed to a small garage in Chamonix and they tried valiantly to fix it. Luckily for us they didn't charge us their time when they failed. It had new winter tyres and a new battery so we gave it to the lads to break up and sell for parts.

A friend's ancient Renault Scenic developed a gearbox fault two years ago; it's an auto and it started losing drive in one gear after another. Given the Saab experience I tried to tell him to scrap it; spending £600 on a car worth less than £1,000 seemed madness. But he proved me wrong, he found an auto specialist who rebuilt the 'box better than Renault ever did for £600 and he has had another two years trouble-free and cost-free motoring from it. It's an old shed but everything works and he could get another five years out of it.

Bangernomics does seem to be about tossing a coin.

 

[hoyin]

Sorry this is a thread drift. But the more I look into an EV the more interested I am as a wife car.

The lead New is £21k. Then the government give you £4.5k back and you get a few plug installed at your home.

A second hand one 2013 with 60k miles is over £6k.

£10k depreciation over 5 years is phenomenal. Or am I just blinded by expensive cars that drop £40k in their first year.

This is the first time I have actually ever looked properly at a “regular” car.

Edit: sorry realised that sounded really ******.


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