Death of a Kangoo?

alfatwo

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Sorry this is a thread drift. But the more I look into an EV the more interested I am as a wife car.

The lead New is £21k. Then the government give you £4.5k back and you get a few plug installed at your home.

A second hand one 2013 with 60k miles is over £6k.

£10k depreciation over 5 years is phenomenal. Or am I just blinded by expensive cars that drop £40k in their first year.

This is the first time I have actually ever looked properly at a “regular” car.

Edit: sorry realised that sounded really ******.


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And apparently the insurance is horrendous on those things!

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Sorry but I won't put my family in a car which could run out of range when they need it. Until these things do 500miles plus on a charge, I'm not interested.

Bangernomics though, i brilliant fun. The best one I had was a 2001 Honda Accord saloon which was great. Cost me £500 from a friend as it was his father's car. Sold it for £800 about a year later. Zero issues, perfect Honda reliability.

Until very recently (like 2 weeks ago) I had a Jeep Patriot for running around to the tip, carrying dogs etc. Love them, I've had 3 of them now. Also had a Suzuki Vitara, another Civic, Volvo s80, Alfa 146, Mini Cooper. All low value, all good fun, except the Vitara which was a POS.
 

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Obviously your family does more driving than mine.

It is just down to how your family use the car. My wife just uses it around town and doing errands and moving kids around.

I would say the max she does a day is 40miles.

She would never ever ever exceed the 150mile range in one day.

So the rest of the time the car is in the drive charging. I would say an EV is prefect for our usage.


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Obviously your family does more driving than mine.

It is just down to how your family use the car. My wife just uses it around town and doing errands and moving kids around.

I would say the max she does a day is 40miles.

She would never ever ever exceed the 150mile range in one day.

So the rest of the time the car is in the drive charging. I would say an EV is prefect for our usage.


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So what happens if you don't have a drive to park the thing up in, you live in a apartment or a block of flats say

Or in a London victorian terrace

EV's are rubbish for 95% of the population!

Dave
 
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So what happens if you don't have a drive to park the thing up in, you live in a apartment or a block of flats say

Or in a London victorian terrace

EV's are rubbish for 95% of the population!

Dave

For now they are. But things will improve.

In central London they have posts with charging points on the street.

In other countries as well I.e. Norway especially in Oslo everyone parks on the street and they have charging posts on pretty much every street for every space.

And as tech improves I would expect to have charging as you drive.

So yes the infrastructure isn’t quite there yet but it will be. So I agree the EV is not for everyone yet.


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For now they are. But things will improve.

In central London they have posts with charging points on the street.

In other countries as well I.e. Norway especially in Oslo everyone parks on the street and they have charging posts on pretty much every street for every space.

And as tech improves I would expect to have charging as you drive.

So yes the infrastructure isn’t quite there yet but it will be. So I agree the EV is not for everyone yet.


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For now they are. But things will improve.

In central London they have posts with charging points on the street.

In other countries as well I.e. Norway especially in Oslo everyone parks on the street and they have charging posts on pretty much every street for every space.

And as tech improves I would expect to have charging as you drive.

So yes the infrastructure isn’t quite there yet but it will be. So I agree the EV is not for everyone yet.


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Sorry mate, but unfortually I'll be giving my 400hp very highly polluting 3200 GT fossil fuel burner full death for the foreseeable future :cool:

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I bought last week a 2005 Clio.
One elderly lady owner from new. Serviced every year. 19k on the clock. Not a spot of rust. £400.
Will use it as a commuter and maybe put winter tyres on it to use it all year round.
 

tan55555

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Sorry this is a thread drift. But the more I look into an EV the more interested I am as a wife car.

The lead New is £21k. Then the government give you £4.5k back and you get a few plug installed at your home.

A second hand one 2013 with 60k miles is over £6k.

£10k depreciation over 5 years is phenomenal. Or am I just blinded by expensive cars that drop £40k in their first year.

This is the first time I have actually ever looked properly at a “regular” car.

Edit: sorry realised that sounded really ******.


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It really is worth trying one and deciding if they are right for you. Electric cars are very marmite, people either think they are brilliant and overlook short falls while telling everyone to get one, or they decide they are stupid (usually without having ever tried one) and try to convince others they must also stay away. You need to examine your own situation carefully, but if an EV does work for what you want/need you will find it hard to ever go back to an ICE car as a runaround. If you are considering a leaf ask Nissan for an extended loan. I borrowed one for a couple of days which gives you a chance to see real range and charging experience etc. Decided to go with the Mercedes instead and there is no hard sell from Nissan if you decide it isn't right for you.
 

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One would be ideal for me. 5 miles to the station and back.

Looks like we're likely to buy Mrs C's dad shitbox Micra as he's been advised to stop driving. Mrs C thinks she'll take it to work. I think I'll bung some winters on it. As an added bonus, the GT stays at home, and added added bonus, I take teh 147 to the station. Which rarely gets charged due to the offset reg plate.

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hoyin

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Sorry mate, but unfortually I'll be giving my 400hp very highly polluting 3200 GT fossil fuel burner full death for the foreseeable future :cool:

Dave

Oh don’t worry.

I don’t intend to give up my fossil fuel burners!! It ain’t for me and my driving pleasure.

It is purely for the wife as a run around. And to make me feel slightly better with my many litres and significant horse power tally.

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hoyin

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It really is worth trying one and deciding if they are right for you. Electric cars are very marmite, people either think they are brilliant and overlook short falls while telling everyone to get one, or they decide they are stupid (usually without having ever tried one) and try to convince others they must also stay away. You need to examine your own situation carefully, but if an EV does work for what you want/need you will find it hard to ever go back to an ICE car as a runaround. If you are considering a leaf ask Nissan for an extended loan. I borrowed one for a couple of days which gives you a chance to see real range and charging experience etc. Decided to go with the Mercedes instead and there is no hard sell from Nissan if you decide it isn't right for you.

Good idea. I will go and ask for an extended loan.

I like the idea of one. It seems to suit our needs and our $hit box which as you know is our Y ref Ford Focus has always annoyed me. Which actually has cost me zero and made me money after the write off.

I bought it for her to learn how to drive in and we have had it ever since.

But it is annoying it has no AC, the central locking doesn’t work and now you have to manually cancel signalling. But it still is not dying. So my wife is still in love with it. I might drive it into a wall one evening by mistake.


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EV's are rubbish for 95% of the population!

Don't forget one had to buy petroleum spirit for one's motor carriage in two gallon tins from apothecaries and chemists.

That didn't stop the growth of motor cars - the infrastructure caught up quickly.
 

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now you have to manually cancel signalling. But it still is not dying. So my wife is still in love with it. I might drive it into a wall one evening by mistake.
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I remember my father teaching me when learning to drive correct hand signals for right and left turn and slowing down etc.
Suspect if I stuck my arm out the window now and made a circular motion to signal turning left it would be misinterpreted and end in road rage!
Changed days what we expect in a car. Vividly remember fitting a stick on heated rear screen on my 1970 mini. Took a full day but I thought this was state of the art motoring.
 

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10k in five years is pretty standard for that price point.

Take the VAT out and its even better.