Electric power steering is rubbish

mjheathcote

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Gave the Maser a good run today, first time this year with lockdown and all.
Was a good one too, it's the 100th anniversary since the first Holme Moss Hill Climb today, and as we are still on covid-19 restrictions there was untimed runs for charity. Hopefully proper road closure and timed runs next year.
Anyway she ran well, but after driving my BMW with electric power steering daily, was a joy to experience the hydraulic power steering with proper weight and feel.
I'd forgotten how much better it is over the modern electric racks!
 

Wanderer

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I seems to remember my old Vauxhall Carlton had Bishop's Cam steering - no idea what it means but it was rubbish.....
 

Ryandoc

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Agreed. A step forward in the automotive industry, that actually went backwards. It’s just not the same at all
 

Twinspark

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The main reason they added them is because they can do safety nannies with them such as lane keep assist and autopark.
 

rossyl

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I remember testing a Cayman, first time I'd driven a car with it. It was bizarre at slow speeds, soo light. Then it wierdly just changes and gets artificially heavier
 

rockits

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It is actually quite a common upgrade to a TVR as many have fitted electric to replace the old non-power assisted steering when it becomes too heavy for an oldie.

Gives the advantage of tuning the steering weight to speed and conditions but agree it often robs the fingers of feel.

The steering on the V8 Vantage was one of the best I've driven.

I find the 4200 very good but a little too quick and light around centre. Generally just a bit too quick the 4200 rack. Just makes it a little hard to make smoother progress in the twisties for me.
 

Twinspark

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It is actually quite a common upgrade to a TVR as many have fitted electric to replace the old non-power assisted steering when it becomes too heavy for an oldie.

Gives the advantage of tuning the steering weight to speed and conditions but agree it often robs the fingers of feel.

The steering on the V8 Vantage was one of the best I've driven.

I find the 4200 very good but a little too quick and light around centre. Generally just a bit too quick the 4200 rack. Just makes it a little hard to make smoother progress in the twisties for me.
I agree with the 4200 having a slightly light steering, I wish it were as heavy as the contemporary Alfas of the time which had sublime steering.
 

BennyD

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I really like direct, nervous front ends. They do take a bit more concentration on the motorway, but I find they come into their own in the twisties. The TT is two turns lock to lock and handles like a go-kart on back roads. The spyder has nice steering and good front end grip but is more of a GT than a twitchy sports car.