QP v Lambo
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Neither currently for sale, particularly. But I am toying with the idea of selling the QP and getting a 4.7 Aston V8 Vantage. Just not done anything proactive about advancing that thought.
As it happens, a buddie of mine called on Friday to say he's thinking of swapping his A-M Rapide for a late DB9 or DBS, so I'm now thinking of a Rapide as well. Plus another pal has decided to sell his late registered 993 Targa, as he bought a different 911 yesterday. So that's now in the mix as well. The Targa is a rare gem, so would be another occasional weekend toy or investment, whereas the Rapide is higher mileage and could simply be my daily. But I'm very happy with the GTS anyway, so no real reason to change.
As it happens, a buddie of mine called on Friday to say he's thinking of swapping his A-M Rapide for a late DB9 or DBS, so I'm now thinking of a Rapide as well. Plus another pal has decided to sell his late registered 993 Targa, as he bought a different 911 yesterday. So that's now in the mix as well. The Targa is a rare gem, so would be another occasional weekend toy or investment, whereas the Rapide is higher mileage and could simply be my daily. But I'm very happy with the GTS anyway, so no real reason to change.
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I've owned 5 993s including 2 turbos. I wouldn't buy a targa. It's a compromise in lots of way with lost stiffness (oh er) and a slightly compromised roof line. This is why they are 10-20% cheaper than coupes. Best of the bunch, turbo aside, is the Carrera 4 where the mechanical 4wd directs drive to the rear most of the time. It's a great car, super well balanced and fab looking in the right colour.
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Holy **** I Hadnt even considered the Rapide, I thought they were 85+
There are some ridiculously nice ones on AT -amazing value.
I imagine my daughter would be happy with the choice watching peppa pig on the way to nursery on the rear entertainment systems.
My wife however would need convincing.
Truly stunning value. Cant get over what amount of car is there for 60k
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I'd be happy to stick with the QP GTS over a Rapide. I guess it depends on if you would have any rear passengers. I wouldn't want to be in the back of the Rapide for long. I've be happy in the back of a QP though.
You could almost have a QP GTS and a V8 Vantage or a V12 Vantage wouldn't be too much more.
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Would say that the 4.2 Sport GTS isn't competition but the 4.7 GTS probably is more of a car to compare and they are between 40 and 50k. Remember Top Gear put the 4.7 QP, Porsche and Aston up against each other.
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Outrun is spot-on about the 993 Targa. If you want a 993, the Carrera 4 is the one to go for (Turbo aside - which will be £100k).
The Coupe is the most sought-after in Porsche cars. And of course a manual gearbox (there are 993 Autos out there, so choose wisely). Before contemplating any air cooled Porsche, have it inspected by a coachwork specialist - there are a lot of corrosion issues on rear kidney bowls, chassis legs and numerous other points.
I'd specifically have a classic car restorer coachwork specialist because they will know exactly where and how to look for corrosion and be able to give you a realistic price of the fix required.
If you want to consider a Porsche, I'd say choose a 997 Gen 1 Turbo with manual gearbox (coupe). Price around £55k. Blisteringly fast - like a gut-wrenching acceleration - and the last of the legendary race-derived Mezger engine.
I advise steering clear of 996/997.1 normally aspirated cars owing to a fragile engine if it has not been sorted by someone like Hartech. These cars do not run a Mezger engine and run a wet-sump engine with a raft of issues and fragility.
The AM is more a GT car. The Porsche Turbo is a sports car.
The Coupe is the most sought-after in Porsche cars. And of course a manual gearbox (there are 993 Autos out there, so choose wisely). Before contemplating any air cooled Porsche, have it inspected by a coachwork specialist - there are a lot of corrosion issues on rear kidney bowls, chassis legs and numerous other points.
I'd specifically have a classic car restorer coachwork specialist because they will know exactly where and how to look for corrosion and be able to give you a realistic price of the fix required.
If you want to consider a Porsche, I'd say choose a 997 Gen 1 Turbo with manual gearbox (coupe). Price around £55k. Blisteringly fast - like a gut-wrenching acceleration - and the last of the legendary race-derived Mezger engine.
I advise steering clear of 996/997.1 normally aspirated cars owing to a fragile engine if it has not been sorted by someone like Hartech. These cars do not run a Mezger engine and run a wet-sump engine with a raft of issues and fragility.
The AM is more a GT car. The Porsche Turbo is a sports car.
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If I were to go for a 911 as a daily, it would have to be a Gen II 997 4S PDK coupe at about £45k. But that is AM V8 4.7 money, which is a more rare and better looking car with a far superior interior. But as something just to look pretty in my garages, and as a safe investment, the 993 targa fits the bill nicely. Far more rare than the coupe and plenty big enough for me. (I've had coupe and cab 993 and 996 versions in the past, and all were great cars in their own ways.) Anyway, I don't need to change any of my cars just now, so will probably stay as is. But a well priced Rapide from a mate would make a nice change, as I've run a QP as my daily for 10 years now (in a series of 4 different cars).
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Been waiting for the Rapide to drop. It is a V12. So you kind of tick that box.
Though it is only a 4 seater. And I have been told that the rear seats are some what lacking in space.
I really need to go and see one at that price.
I couldn't find any that are under £65k - £80k.
Where you seeing this £50k?
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Though it is only a 4 seater. And I have been told that the rear seats are some what lacking in space.
I really need to go and see one at that price.
I couldn't find any that are under £65k - £80k.
Where you seeing this £50k?
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There is a sub £50k and 3 sub £60k Rapides on autotrader at the moment. Higher mileage than you'd want with an AM but nevertheless, still cheap money for a brand like AM. But boy, it is a HUGE car. Was looking at a Panamera (gen 2) at the weekend and that is a long car too, thought my CLS63 had been a long car but both the Panamera and Rapide dwarf it.