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You say that but they are not always an easy repair, clarkson even commented that his red car was still not fixed 9 months on by a specialist, I would hedge a guess at Bill McGrath.
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You say that but they are not always an easy repair, clarkson even commented that his red car was still not fixed 9 months on by a specialist, I would hedge a guess at Bill McGrath.
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I think I would take that with a pinch of salt, I don't think there is anything on these cars that can't be fixed, its just down to how much time you are willing to spend or how much you are willing to pay in labour costs to diagnose the problem. It is not uncommon for modern cars with complex electronics, canbus systems etc to have issues that can't be resolved by dealers but this is possibly down to software corruption or electronics that are beyond the capabilities of all but the biggest electronic geeks. Biturbos are actually quite simple, particularly the electrics as there are no complex systems just some wiring, a fusebox and some ECUs. Bearing in mind that the car was driven on the beach, I wouldn't mind betting that the problems are relating to water ingress into the electrics, the symptoms of misfiring, lack of power etc look to me as though they are fuelling and/or ignition related. Biturbos are renowned for their weak fuseboxes so I wouldn't mind betting that water has got into one of the ignition/fuelling systems and caused a short on the main fuse box. Most of the engine related relays are in the engine bay and with all that salty water splashing around in there it wouldn't have done them any good. All fairly easily traced and fixed in my opinion but that doesn't make quite such a dramatic story for tv 
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I think I would take that with a pinch of salt, I don't think there is anything on these cars that can't be fixed, its just down to how much time you are willing to spend or how much you are willing to pay in labour costs to diagnose the problem. It is not uncommon for modern cars with complex electronics, canbus systems etc to have issues that can't be resolved by dealers but this is possibly down to software corruption or electronics that are beyond the capabilities of all but the biggest electronic geeks. Biturbos are actually quite simple, particularly the electrics as there are no complex systems just some wiring, a fusebox and some ECUs. Bearing in mind that the car was driven on the beach, I wouldn't mind betting that the problems are relating to water ingress into the electrics, the symptoms of misfiring, lack of power etc look to me as though they are fuelling and/or ignition related. Biturbos are renowned for their weak fuseboxes so I wouldn't mind betting that water has got into one of the ignition/fuelling systems and caused a short on the main fuse box. Most of the engine related relays are in the engine bay and with all that salty water splashing around in there it wouldn't have done them any good. All fairly easily traced and fixed in my opinion but that doesn't make quite such a dramatic story for tv
Or it was all make believe, as the laughable overdubbed starting problems. Who knows..
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Spot on. I had a Volvo 480 turbo that 3 Volvo mechs spent 3 weeks trying to find out why it only ran well when turbos were on but never did nearly 20 years ago........had to sell it because I picked up 9 points in 6 months, the police never accepted it was a turbo problem that caused me speedingI think I would take that with a pinch of salt, I don't think there is anything on these cars that can't be fixed, its just down to how much time you are willing to spend or how much you are willing to pay in labour costs to diagnose the problem. It is not uncommon for modern cars with complex electronics, canbus systems etc to have issues that can't be resolved by dealers but this is possibly down to software corruption or electronics that are beyond the capabilities of all but the biggest electronic geeks. Biturbos are actually quite simple, particularly the electrics as there are no complex systems just some wiring, a fusebox and some ECUs. Bearing in mind that the car was driven on the beach, I wouldn't mind betting that the problems are relating to water ingress into the electrics, the symptoms of misfiring, lack of power etc look to me as though they are fuelling and/or ignition related. Biturbos are renowned for their weak fuseboxes so I wouldn't mind betting that water has got into one of the ignition/fuelling systems and caused a short on the main fuse box. Most of the engine related relays are in the engine bay and with all that salty water splashing around in there it wouldn't have done them any good. All fairly easily traced and fixed in my opinion but that doesn't make quite such a dramatic story for tv
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I'd agree with this. I have lost count of the amount of times of have spent silly silly amounts of time diagnosing/fixing IT/Tech issues over the last 25 years. Mant times the customer is unaware and I could never justify to invoice all that time with only a small amount charged. Sometimes there are workarounds or cheaper or quicker fixes. Sometimes there isn't full stop and it just needs fixing. I could say I have easily have spent a couple of hundred hours on some things to get to the end result. I'm a determined thing..... oh and very very patient!!
I'm sure I've spend many hours on cars by the same token as many of us here have as well. Spent quite a few recently on the hybrid!
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