May Well Be Selling My 4200GT Facelift (Manual)

Vampyrebat

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Well, looking at another car tomorrow with a view to buying. If I like it I will have to sell my 4200. They have offered me 13K as part ex but I know she is worth well more than that so here goes. I'm Looking for £15,995 ono

Maserati 4200GT Facelift with Rare Manual Gear Box

For sale is very rare Maserati 4200 presented on Grigio Alfieri with a black leather interior and grey alcantara roof lining.
The car has a reasonably low mileage of 65,900 with a full SH from Maserati and specialist. I have had the car resprayed front end and blended into the doors so no stone chips as you would get with a car of this age. The alloys were refurbished when I purchased the car and are still in immaculate condition inside and out. The vents have all been changed for new ones so all the chrome is intact and there is none of that sticky finish that occurs with the old ones. Brand new matching mats will come with the car as well as the ones that are in at the moment (also in fantastic condition). New battery. The rear seats can easily accommodate 2 adults.
I have had an ‘H' pipe fitted to the exhaust. This car drives fantastically and is also very well/easy driving around town. Extras include Xenon lights/6 CD player radio/Skyhook suspension/electric heated folding mirrors/heated and memory seats/Sports mode/traction control/reverse parking sensors
Everything works as intended and the car is in fantastic condition inside and out as I am rather OCD about my cars. Certainly one of the best examples about. A fantastic unmolested example of this true Grand Tourer with a derived Ferrari 430 engine. Car is HPI clear. All documentation is present. Reason for sale, I miss having a cabriolet. Tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and have plenty of tread
For any other questions please contact Stuart on 07766 785639
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Ewan

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I do like the facelift 4200. And now there at least 3 good examples for sale at mid teens. Anyone new to the brand and considering a 3200 or 4200 or QPV (the obvious other contenders around this price point) would do we well to start with one of these.

Cheaper to run than the QP. More reliable and easier to maintain than a 3200. Better in every way to an early 4200.

Good luck to you (and Martyn) as these cars deserve to sell.
 

Andyk

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Seen this cat and it's lovely. Two excellent 4200 now as sale on here as Ewan has pointed out.
 

Vampyrebat

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Thanks chaps for those very kind words. I'm keeping it if the car I'm seeing today is not as good a bargain as it seems!
 

Ewan

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Suddenly realised this must be the last model of Maserati made with a traditional manual gearbox and gear-lever. Has to be worth more further down the line. I don't know how many manual RHD facelift 4200 they built, but it can't have been many. A few dozen for the UK perhaps.

This would a good one, from an investment point of view, to drain of fluids, SORN, and shove in the back of a dry barn for a decade or so. If there are going to be interesting "barn find" stories in the future, we need to start creating them now.
 

safrane

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Good luck with the sale.

I have been looking at late 4200s to take the place of the GS so realise what a good car this is. I'm after a CC (old left leg injury) so sadly not for me.
 

rockits

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Nice car & GLWS. Shame it isn't a beige/tan interior as I could have been tempted by that. I just don't get one with that dark black interior on a Maser.

I do have the front & rear seats of a 4200 though but will still need a fair bit more interior to convert.
 

Ewan

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What do you base that comment on please?

Having owned and driven several of each, I find the later car better. I prefer the way it drives, the way it looks, the interior, etc. Indeed, the facelift handles similarly to the GS, which can't be said of the earlier cars. All the little tweaks and changes Maserati made to it over the years added up to a worthwhile improvement (IMHO, of course). So when buying second hand, and if funds allowed, for the sake of just a couple of grand or so extra, I'd go for a facelift version.
 

nfm

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Nice looking car, good luck with sale.

Based on how many left site maybe 40 odd GTs registered 2004/2007 so not common.
 

mjheathcote

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Having owned and driven several of each, I find the later car better. I prefer the way it drives, the way it looks, the interior, etc. Indeed, the facelift handles similarly to the GS, which can't be said of the earlier cars. All the little tweaks and changes Maserati made to it over the years added up to a worthwhile improvement (IMHO, of course). So when buying second hand, and if funds allowed, for the sake of just a couple of grand or so extra, I'd go for a facelift version.

I just think stating in 'every way better' is a bit strong in my opinion and can give a totally wrong impression of the earlier cars to potential new buyers.
Looks are objective, personally don't find the attraction of chromed plastic cowls in the headlight clusters, plastic grills and plastic tridents, go faster rear mesh bumpers, and prefer the cleaner original look carrying on from the 3200.
Interior, a coffee cup holder and a different background colour to the instruments, is not necessarily better to some.
Mechanically, the changes are minimal and in some cases the facelift can be worse having the US spec exhaust headers, and if you have the first gen cambiocorsa firmware in the earlier cars, again a matter of opinion, is more raw and sporty.
These little changes therefore, better or worse, depending on opinion, are totally insignificant when buying a used car that is now well over 10 years old.
Condition is far more important, a well looked after tight, corrosion free earlier car will always be a better buy than a loose, weathered facelift.
There isn't a lot of cars to choose from either, unlike the German cars!
 

bigbob

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Always get some nice MY debates on here. I never took to the nose on the GranTurismo GT Sport preferring the cleaner look of my older car. The key thing is that we buy what we each prefer.

Back in the day when I had my 3200GT MM gave me a new 2002 4200GT as a loaner and I did not warm to it but a few years later bought one of the last 4200GTs and got on well with that. These cars are interesting but none of them are anything other than average drives. Mind if I followed through on that then I would dump my GranTurismo for and M4 Competition pack or some such. None of us are logical and anyone that buys a Maserati is less logical than many!
 

Ewan

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I very much agree that a car must be judged and bought on condition. But that being equal, I happen to think the facelift cars to be noticeably better (in every way meaningful to me) than the earlier cars. Indeed, it's common for recent Maserati offerings to improve over their lifetime, be it the Ghibli ABS through to the Ghibli Cup, or the 4200 through to the GS, or the GT through to the GT-S. Of course, I'm perfectly willing to accept that others will disagree with me.

The car for sale here looks like a great buy to me.
 

Vampyrebat

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Well...........It was an Audi RS4 Cabriolet I was trading in for (missing a convertible and need 4 seats). The car was in good condition but needed a fair bit doing to it before I would accept it. When they saw the 42 they upped their PX offer to 14K along with getting all the items done that I had spotted and I still turned them down! It has just confirmed to me what a sweet and rare car I have so the 80 mile journey was still worth it!

On another point, I was assuming the RS4 would be a fare bit quicker than mine but it felt slower! It may of been the delivery. Also when revving the accelerator pedal, it seemed lame/sluggish. I remember my last S4 was quite spritely on the pedal. Maybe the engine needed a good overhaul (FASH on 49,000 miles). It just didn't get the pulse racing at all............I am right in thinking that an RS4 would be quicker than a 42 right???

Maybe it's just me cause when I took it for a test drive the salesman all of a sudden went very quiet, pale and sweaty and tightly gripped onto the door handle:D
 

j s pollo

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Hi Vampyrebat..

Guess what your car has a twin with two minor exceptions the interior on my motor is biege/tan
and 05 reg nice to know they are more likely to hold their prices
A future classic motor I suspect will be in demand
all the best in selling your Mase
 

Vampyrebat

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You have good taste j s pollo! I am keeping it now as it made me realise what a great car I have. So back to plan A, looking for a cheap Barchetta to scratch the cabriolet itch. Went to see this one on Tuesday but turned out to be another frog!!WP_20180425_17_26_42_Pro.jpg
 

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You have good taste j s pollo! I am keeping it now as it made me realise what a great car I have. So back to plan A, looking for a cheap Barchetta to scratch the cabriolet itch. Went to see this one on Tuesday but turned out to be another frog!!

Always liked the Barchetta. I think the facelift is the better looking car, though much rarer. Watch out for the electric power steering whining under load as they fail, though you used to be able to get good refurb parts from BBA Reman.
I had a Mk2 Punto HGT which shares a lot of parts with the Barchetta.