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Thread: May Well Be Selling My 4200GT Facelift (Manual)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewan View Post
    Having owned and driven several of each, I find the later car better. I prefer the way it drives, the way it looks, the interior, etc. Indeed, the facelift handles similarly to the GS, which can't be said of the earlier cars. All the little tweaks and changes Maserati made to it over the years added up to a worthwhile improvement (IMHO, of course). So when buying second hand, and if funds allowed, for the sake of just a couple of grand or so extra, I'd go for a facelift version.
    I just think stating in 'every way better' is a bit strong in my opinion and can give a totally wrong impression of the earlier cars to potential new buyers.
    Looks are objective, personally don't find the attraction of chromed plastic cowls in the headlight clusters, plastic grills and plastic tridents, go faster rear mesh bumpers, and prefer the cleaner original look carrying on from the 3200.
    Interior, a coffee cup holder and a different background colour to the instruments, is not necessarily better to some.
    Mechanically, the changes are minimal and in some cases the facelift can be worse having the US spec exhaust headers, and if you have the first gen cambiocorsa firmware in the earlier cars, again a matter of opinion, is more raw and sporty.
    These little changes therefore, better or worse, depending on opinion, are totally insignificant when buying a used car that is now well over 10 years old.
    Condition is far more important, a well looked after tight, corrosion free earlier car will always be a better buy than a loose, weathered facelift.
    There isn't a lot of cars to choose from either, unlike the German cars!
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    Always get some nice MY debates on here. I never took to the nose on the GranTurismo GT Sport preferring the cleaner look of my older car. The key thing is that we buy what we each prefer.

    Back in the day when I had my 3200GT MM gave me a new 2002 4200GT as a loaner and I did not warm to it but a few years later bought one of the last 4200GTs and got on well with that. These cars are interesting but none of them are anything other than average drives. Mind if I followed through on that then I would dump my GranTurismo for and M4 Competition pack or some such. None of us are logical and anyone that buys a Maserati is less logical than many!
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    I very much agree that a car must be judged and bought on condition. But that being equal, I happen to think the facelift cars to be noticeably better (in every way meaningful to me) than the earlier cars. Indeed, it's common for recent Maserati offerings to improve over their lifetime, be it the Ghibli ABS through to the Ghibli Cup, or the 4200 through to the GS, or the GT through to the GT-S. Of course, I'm perfectly willing to accept that others will disagree with me.

    The car for sale here looks like a great buy to me.
    Ewan

    Current Maserati - GranSport MC Victory, GranTurismo-S MC Sport Line
    Previous Maserati - Khamsin, Shamal, Ghibli II, Ghibli Cup (x2), QP IV Evo (x3), 3200 (x2), 4200 Spyder (x2), QP V (x3), QP V GTS.

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    Well...........It was an Audi RS4 Cabriolet I was trading in for (missing a convertible and need 4 seats). The car was in good condition but needed a fair bit doing to it before I would accept it. When they saw the 42 they upped their PX offer to 14K along with getting all the items done that I had spotted and I still turned them down! It has just confirmed to me what a sweet and rare car I have so the 80 mile journey was still worth it!

    On another point, I was assuming the RS4 would be a fare bit quicker than mine but it felt slower! It may of been the delivery. Also when revving the accelerator pedal, it seemed lame/sluggish. I remember my last S4 was quite spritely on the pedal. Maybe the engine needed a good overhaul (FASH on 49,000 miles). It just didn't get the pulse racing at all............I am right in thinking that an RS4 would be quicker than a 42 right???

    Maybe it's just me cause when I took it for a test drive the salesman all of a sudden went very quiet, pale and sweaty and tightly gripped onto the door handle
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    Hi Vampyrebat..

    Guess what your car has a twin with two minor exceptions the interior on my motor is biege/tan
    and 05 reg nice to know they are more likely to hold their prices
    A future classic motor I suspect will be in demand
    all the best in selling your Mase

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    You have good taste j s pollo! I am keeping it now as it made me realise what a great car I have. So back to plan A, looking for a cheap Barchetta to scratch the cabriolet itch. Went to see this one on Tuesday but turned out to be another frog!!WP_20180425_17_26_42_Pro.jpg
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    Alfa Romeo 75 (T-Spark LE) Met Black
    Alfa Romeo 156 ( 2000) Silver
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbob View Post
    Always get some nice MY debates on here. I never took to the nose on the GranTurismo GT Sport preferring the cleaner look of my older car.
    I agree with you there, Bob.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbob View Post
    None of us are logical and anyone that buys a Maserati is less logical than many!
    And there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampyrebat View Post
    You have good taste j s pollo! I am keeping it now as it made me realise what a great car I have. So back to plan A, looking for a cheap Barchetta to scratch the cabriolet itch. Went to see this one on Tuesday but turned out to be another frog!!
    Always liked the Barchetta. I think the facelift is the better looking car, though much rarer. Watch out for the electric power steering whining under load as they fail, though you used to be able to get good refurb parts from BBA Reman.
    I had a Mk2 Punto HGT which shares a lot of parts with the Barchetta.
    Chris

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