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That is the downside. Every single one I’ve picked up for a client/photoshoot/whatever had run out of electricityAlways loved the 928 a true GT car but very complex should they go wrong
That is the downside. Every single one I’ve picked up for a client/photoshoot/whatever had run out of electricityAlways loved the 928 a true GT car but very complex should they go wrong
That is the downside. Every single one I’ve picked up for a client/photoshoot/whatever had run out of electricity
Had an S2 with a manual dog leg 5 speed In the early 90’s and agree the change was notchy and awkward at best. Suits an auto but the manuals are the collectible onesManual 928s are brilliant things. The actual gearshift isn’t, in of itself, brilliant (a bit vague and floppy, though that may have been the ones I’ve sampled), but the sheer act of self-shifting turns it into an almost super car experience.
Had an S2 with a manual dog leg 5 speed In the early 90’s and agree the change was notchy and awkward at best. Suits an auto but the manuals are the collectible onesView attachment 84725
The shift on most 928s suffers from poor adjustment and worn coupler bushes. If the workshop procedure is properly followed, then the shift is very good, considering the transaxle layout and the linkage mechanism which is more than 2mtrs long. And you are absolutely spot on - the manuals are the one to keep. You get the best of both worlds - there is so much torque from the later 32v engines, that I was able to demonstrate to a friend - shifted my GTS into 5th at 20mph and wound it up to 150 without a protest - hence there is no need to row the box. On the other hand if you want to hustle a 928 down a sweeping road, the manual box gives you the extra layer of control and participation, which can only increase driving pleasure...
i know nothing about porsches but loving your knowledge of them
Totally agree with you about the sitting around. Some dealers and owners tend to think that because they're German, they're happy to sit there and are ready to start on the button. Which of course, they aren't... similar story with R129 SLs, blowing the seat fuses when jump started in the wrong way. Expensively.Given that I own a GTS 5-spd, a GTS 5-spd race car and a late 928 S4 5-spd and that I work on them alongside 944s and early GT3s I think I am somewhat qulified to comment...
The 928 is no more or no less complex than any car of the era loaded with options. There is a lot of stuff on the fuse board for sure, but 95% of the car is analogue. It's either on or off. A digital mulimeter and if you fancy it, a USB based osciloscope, is more than enough to diagnose/work out where the fault lies. The workshop manuals are perhaps the most detailed I have ever used - they certainly highlight how the shift from an engineering led to accountants led company happened under Wideking. And they cost £25. Diagnostic software to help with engine, ABS/PSD and tyre pressure monitoring - (yes, they did have that in 1989!) ECUs costs about £400. Must say though - they don't like sitting idle outside - the more you use them, the better they would be.
Last but not least - they are still an absolute bargain in a classic car world, where people are willing to pay £50k for rust bucket 964s or E30 M3s. I have had both - not rusty - and I know where my loyalties are...
Totally agree with you about the sitting around. Some dealers and owners tend to think that because they're German, they're happy to sit there and are ready to start on the button. Which of course, they aren't... similar story with R129 SLs, blowing the seat fuses when jump started in the wrong way. Expensively.
A 928 GTS five-speed you say... would you like Strada to do a feature on it?
These little spiders are very underated, they are great fun, if you want to try one before committing you are welcome to try mine. No I am not going to try to sell I to you I intend to keep it for a while yet.This 4200 is on at Anglia next weekend and I’m going as usual to pick up a cheap runabout. I have offloaded my MB CL500 luxobarge that I bought there for £2k last year, used on the salty roads, put in nothing but oil and petrol and sold it with a fresh MOT with advisories on low rear tyres for a £330 profit. That’s cheap Classic motoring and going after this Alfa spider this time as have no topless car for the summer since the GC was sold!
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 T-Spark Lusso
2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 Twin Spark Lusso available in Anglia Car Auctions May classic saleangliacarauctions.co.uk
2003 Maserati 4200 Coupe Cambiocorsa
2003 Maserati Coupe Cambiocorsa available in Anglia Car Auctions May classic saleangliacarauctions.co.uk
Thanks for the offer. I never spend big bucks at this auction and plan to only spend a couple of grand, so will take a chance. I had the later Brera spider as a runaround a few years ago and agree they are fun, cheap and underratedThese little spiders are very underated, they are great fun, if you want to try one before committing you are welcome to try mine. No I am not going to try to sell I to you I intend to keep it for a while yet.
Hi Strada is still available from the websiteIt was originally the UK press car - THE928S - and I am the 3d owner after Porsche GB and A Nother... It is just being finished - a nut and bolt restoration, with the underside back to bare metal and everything else blasted, replated/painted and put back together, freshly rebuild engine, suspension, calipers, new carpets, interior etc. The car is driveable and presents superbly on the outside, but believe it or not - the speaker grilles on the doors/rear quarters have cracked with age and have been a massive problem through the restoration process. They are NLA from Porsche and it took ages to figure a solution. The car is booked with a 928 electrical specialist for the middle of this month who has found a way to restore them and will re-fit the OEM Blaupunkt Symphony that I had rebuild by another specialist. Once that's done, I would be delighted to see it back in a magazine, following its first appearance back in 1993... In the meantime, I need to subscribe to Strada - heard only great things. Would I get the issues from N1 or will it start with the current one?
Hi Strada is still available from the website
That sounds like the perfect car for us. Might see if I can track down some of the Porsche staffers at the time.
It might even be the same car a former colleague had use of when he worked at new car magazine back in the day. He has fond memories, and 'still have the erection'...
One memory was using it to go to a funeral, and its V8 burble upsetting the mourners from across the car park.
The S4 - is that an S4 SE? I've driven most versions of the 928 in various forms from the mid 80s onwards, yet this one has eluded me. I know that it's mechanically different to a GT and GTS, but I wonder just how tangibly different to drive they are, handling-wise? From my brief scan of my memory, didn't the SE rev higher too?*
* the downside of this job is that the deep research I did years back for the GTS MC feature has started wear off, but only in bits.
Ooh thanks for reminding me. Shame that 130. coupe has leather as the last one at auction had a wild coloured velour which I loved.Some personal highlights from Historics May Sale
I do love a W140. Mainly for the story behind its construction – and what happened afterwards. Truly an exquisite place to do any journey of length, even after all these years. I also love the styling (there's a story behind that too); the whole car is a giant middle finger to everyone, almost. I love it for that.
Ref 106 1992 Mercedes-Benz 600 SEL JG
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class represented a classification officially introduced in 1972 with the W116. The S-Class has served as the flagship model for Mercedes for over fifty years in its various incarnations debuting many of the company's latest innovations including drive-train technologies...www.historics.co.ukRef 103 1995 Mercedes-Benz S600 L JG
The Mercedes-Benz S-Class represented a classification officially introduced in 1972 with the W116. The S-Class has served as the flagship model for Mercedes for over fifty years in its various incarnations debuting many of the company's latest innovations including drive-train technologies...www.historics.co.uk
Though this is the true hero of the breed...
Ref 17 1969 Mercedes-Benz 600 SWB DG
At one point in time, Mercedes-Benz built, arguably, the finest luxury automobiles in the world. In its post-war recovery, they shifted focus towards more practical family saloons, followed by cars of a more sporting nature. By the early 1960s, however, Rudolf Uhlenhaut felt the time had come...www.historics.co.uk
Five takes on Italian elegance
Ref 48 1962 Lancia Flaminia GT MRP
Introduced in 1957, the Flaminia was Lancia's flagship model at that time, replacing the Aurelia. It was available throughout its lifetime as saloon, coupé and cabriolet. The Flaminia coupé and convertible were coachbuilt cars with bodies from several prestigious Italian coachbuilders. The...www.historics.co.ukRef 47 1968 Maserati Quattroporte Series II MRP
The Quattroporte was introduced at the October/November 1963 Turin Motor Show, where a pre-production prototype was on the Maserati stand next to the Mistral coupé. Regular production began in 1964. The Tipo 107 Quattroporte joined two other grand tourers, the Facel Vega and the Lagonda Rapide...www.historics.co.ukRef 37 1970 Alfa Romeo 1750 GT Veloce JT
The first of Alfa Romeo’s Bertone styled coupés, the 1.6 litre Giulia Sprint GT, was launched in 1963. Mechanically the stylish new 2+2 was much the same as the Giulia TI sports saloon, featuring a five-speed manual gearbox, independent front suspension, coil-spring live rear axle and disc...www.historics.co.ukRef 100 1973 Fiat 130 Coupé Auto JG
Fiat was never really noted for building large luxury cars so the 130 range was quite a departure compared to their wonderful compact cars. The Coupé, based on the same platform as the saloon, was introduced in March 1971 having been designed by Paolo Martin of Pininfarina, who also manufactured...www.historics.co.ukRef 141 1976 Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2 DG
At the Paris Auto Salon in 1972, Ferrari unveiled an all new car to the world. It was a fast, svelte and elegant 2+2 powered by their legendary V12 engine and was the most expensive series produced by Ferrari for 17 years. The 365 GT4 2+2 is easily distinguished from its successors by its six...www.historics.co.uk
Two takes on a beautiful way to end up poor and divorced
Ref 63 1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Speciale by Bertone WP
“Interested parties should be aware that contrary to the catalogue description this car does not come with its toolkit. The jack is present however.” The stunning Sprint Speciale coupé directly descended from Carrozzeria Bertone’s brilliant Bertone Aerodynamica Technica (BAT) design studies of...www.historics.co.ukRef 62 1967 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto WP
The Alfa Romeo Spider 1600, to give it its official factory name, was manufactured during 1966 and 1967. The name 'Duetto' came about from a competition held by Alfa Romeo to distinguish the car from its Giulia 105 series stable mates, the Coupé and Berlina, and was accepted for its reference to...www.historics.co.uk
My favourite type of car – 90s GTs. The Maser's lack of three pedals would push me in the Porsche's direction on this occasion...
Ref 31 1994 Maserati Ghibli II Granturismo EBS
The Maserati Bi-Turbo came in a number of different format's however the Ghibli II was by far in a way the more desirable, better built with improved styling and better designed interior comfort. The return of the Maserati Ghibli in 1992 was trumpeted by its maker as a hugely important milestone...www.historics.co.ukRef 35 1991 Porsche 928 GT JT
Critics immediately recognised the advances inherent in the 928 over the 911 and it was universally praised as one of the greatest GT cars of all time. It handled, it was quick, it looked fantastic, and it was comfortable. With the 928, Porsche created a serious long-distance grand-touring car...www.historics.co.uk
And this is just lovely
Ref 32 1973 BMW 3.0 CSi DL
In 1968, BMW introduced a new two-door coupé that was designed and built by Karman. This new model was named internally as the E9 and the first version produced was named the 2800 CS, it featured an increased wheelbase to accommodate a new straight-six engine. The front of the car was restyled...www.historics.co.uk
It was originally the UK press car - THE928S - and I am the 3d owner after Porsche GB and A Nother... It is just being finished - a nut and bolt restoration, with the underside back to bare metal and everything else blasted, replated/painted and put back together, freshly rebuild engine, suspension, calipers, new carpets, interior etc. The car is driveable and presents superbly on the outside, but believe it or not - the speaker grilles on the doors/rear quarters have cracked with age and have been a massive problem through the restoration process. They are NLA from Porsche and it took ages to figure a solution. The car is booked with a 928 electrical specialist for the middle of this month who has found a way to restore them and will re-fit the OEM Blaupunkt Symphony that I had rebuild by another specialist. Once that's done, I would be delighted to see it back in a magazine, following its first appearance back in 1993... In the meantime, I need to subscribe to Strada - heard only great things. Would I get the issues from N1 or will it start with the current one?