Amazing... what could be more perfect for your Ghibli?!!!

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Wanderer said:
This is all true of course, but there are two factions, the traditional Maserati enthusiast, and those that are really execs that want a different badge. I think maybe you are latter, and most of here are the former.

The exclusivity was the attraction, now you can get a diesel auto almost a C300 with Maserati badges on it and still pay over the odds. For a car you can see quite frequently on the road.

I see what ur saying about FIAT, but there's a world of difference between to the two comparisons, FIAT owned, but I see no FIAT V8 or V12 in a Ferrari or Maserati, others will know better.

At the end of the day it's a personal thing but for me a GT/Sport saloon is an NA large engine with a clutch, even an DS clutch. I'd baulk at that but the paddles effectively press the release the clutch better than any normal driver, that's what I like. An improvement. Diesel and slush box isn't.

Just my 2p...
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Have you driven any of the new range? I’ve driven all variants of them both and I disagree..
 
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Contigo said:
Ghost rider I like you a lot. Most people would have been ranting by now but you are very controlled in your responses.

I slagged Ghibli and diseasels but actually they make lots of sense, the best of both Worlds and you are right they are the savior of the trident brand and the Levante even more so. It has cleaned up Worldwide....
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Thank you for your kind words contigo, I am humbled by them and by no means deserve them.

it is a lot simpler then that, I see nothing to rant about, as much as beauty is in the eye of the beholder so is the ability/choice to take offence or not.

I simply choose not to take offence lol
 
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Contigo said:
Ghost rider I like you a lot. Most people would have been ranting by now but you are very controlled in your responses....
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Well said.

@Ghostrider - lovely looking car and good luck with the sale. What was the damage that led the insurance company to decide the car wasn’t economic to repair and declare it a cat D?
 
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JonW said:
Well said.

@Ghostrider - lovely looking car and good luck with the sale. What was the damage that led the insurance company to decide the car wasn’t economic to repair and declare it a cat D?
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Hi Jon,

A Range Rover decide to park it’s bottom on the passenger side front end, it damaged the wing, bumper, bonnet and passenger light and some plastic bits attached to those parts, and triggered off the passenger airbag.

As you may know the old cat D is the new cat N. So no structural damage just cosmetic stuff, most of which has been attended to as you can see from the pics
 
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The norm is 25% less for a cat D but as long as it's already been repaired, 29k is a bit rich for a car that still requires repairing and with possible unknowns, no offence intended Ghostrider, but you seem to be pitching everything on the high side, you need to be more realistic with your pricing and not fly a kite in my opinion, wish I had some Shakespeare in me to flower this up;)
 
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lifes2short said:
The norm is 25% less for a cat D but as long as it's already been repaired, 29k is a bit rich for a car that still requires repairing and with possible unknowns, no offence intended Ghostrider, but you seem to be pitching everything on the high side, you need to be more realistic with your pricing and not fly a kite in my opinion, wish I had some Shakespeare in me to flower this up;)
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You don’t need any Shakespeare ...flying a kite is theatrical enough I think lol...

I figured this was an enthusiasts forum so it would go without saying.

Of course you can find a Ghibli in the low to mid 30s on a 2016 plate. But if that was the case there wouldn’t be any price difference between a tdi, technik or s line when buying an Audi A4 as they are all an A4. But By Jove there is, I wonder why that is? Of course because spec matters.

If you go on trader or eBay you will see that a car with this spec is around 40k, carbon pack, business pack, 20”alloys, full colour coding insider out etc(I have already listed the additional spec which is circa 20ks worth).

Also the work outstanding is a couple of grands worth not the full cat D issues. so yes value is subtracted but value also added.

Finally, cat d repaired is usually 10% off I.e a 40k car is 36k. I don’t know where u got 25% from as the 10% figure is fairly well recognised and if you can get 25% off repaired please share your contact as I would be in the market to buy.

Also plate is included (even if you value it at £250, although once again I don’t know where people are buying because even dvla would charge £400 for a standard new reg plate) lol

Based on the above 29k is actually very reasonable especially as if you search for low mileage damaged Ghiblis on the net you will find you would pay 20kish for a quite badly damaged one, not repaired and with a basic spec (I.e it was 55k out of the showroom rather then the 78k this one was)

But I think whatever is said some people will always remain contrary to logical opinion therefore my statement is as above and as always you are free to believe whatsoever you choose
 
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But you have to make them really think they are getting a deal. Our car looks mega value compared to a Cat D at £29k.
 
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Ghostrider said:
You don’t need any Shakespeare ...flying a kite is theatrical enough I think lol...

I figured this was an enthusiasts forum so it would go without saying.

Of course you can find a Ghibli in the low to mid 30s on a 2016 plate. But if that was the case there wouldn’t be any price difference between a tdi, technik or s line when buying an Audi A4 as they are all an A4. But By Jove there is, I wonder why that is? Of course because spec matters.

If you go on trader or eBay you will see that a car with this spec is around 40k, carbon pack, business pack, 20”alloys, full colour coding insider out etc(I have already listed the additional spec which is circa 20ks worth).

Also the work outstanding is a couple of grands worth not the full cat D issues. so yes value is subtracted but value also added.

Finally, cat d repaired is usually 10% off I.e a 40k car is 36k. I don’t know where u got 25% from as the 10% figure is fairly well recognised and if you can get 25% off repaired please share your contact as I would be in the market to buy.

Also plate is included (even if you value it at £250, although once again I don’t know where people are buying because even dvla would charge £400 for a standard new reg plate) lol

Based on the above 29k is actually very reasonable especially as if you search for low mileage damaged Ghiblis on the net you will find you would pay 20kish for a quite badly damaged one, not repaired and with a basic spec (I.e it was 55k out of the showroom rather then the 78k this one was)

But I think whatever is said some people will always remain contrary to logical opinion therefore my statement is as above and as always you are free to believe whatsoever you choose
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Take on board all you points and happy you like my kite thing, that's as good as it gets.

Unfortunately it's very well known within the trade and ultimately petrolheads that a cat d is 25% less aprox, you are way off with 10%, the problem is that there will always be a stigma attached to cat d cars and they are difficult to sell unless at the right price, meaning cheap unfortunately. You would be better off fully attending to all the repairs and then trying to sell. High asking figure, cat d and still requiring work just seems like you may be p ying in the wind, took me ages to think of that saying;)
 
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The word play here makes more sense then the actual car knowledge. Because I just googled cat d Ghibli and the cheapest I found was indeed for 29k but with almost 30,000 miles on the clock a 2015 plate and with the brown trim, no interior colour coding, no sports pack and 18”wheels...

I guess I’m just crazy and should just put this on eBay... my expectations of Maserati enthusiasts was maybe a little inflated and also it seems any such enthusiasm and knowledge by and large extends to old/older maseratis ... hence your probably right this is possibly not the best place for it as your commentary does not correlate to any of the cars I have previously owned or sold
 
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Current market is crazy , I reckon £22k max for a Cat D car but I wish you luck...
 
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Point incase with the comments above

The item you linked did not sell for 19k, it was subsequently relisted and then removed again whilst at £20,200 with 3 bids... so don’t know what is going on with that looks a bit dodgy... in any case no sports pack, alloys have been replaced, not colour coded etc etc oh and it’s a 15plate so doesn’t have the 2016 changes (e.g dpf, ad blue tank etc)...

Anyway that comment proves my point about knowledge around newer maseratis, I would imagine if it was the old mark 2 Ghibli you would know it down to the very nuts and bolts and I do not take away from that at all... horses for courses I guess...

That has nothing to do with the horses **** comment from earlier :)
 
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It's worth what someone is willing to pay, good luck with the sale, it is a lovely looking car.
 
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Specific model knowledge is one thing. Brand & market awareness is something else entirely. Of which Forum members have experience a plenty.
As others have said the market for used Maserati has softened in recent times. Try searching a few recent sales threads of immaculate, well known, examples and you might be surprised. Also, as others have said, GLWS. She does look nice.
 
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This literally took me two seconds by putting in damaged Ghibli into the eBay search bar.. literally the first two results.

18k for Ghibli with no repairs, absolutely basic spec car was a 34k insurance payout bottom of the rung Maserati and £13k for one that is absolutely battered, damaged every panel, front end gone, interior damaged . will cost an arm and leg to repair and he still wants 13k...

My original assessments/comments remain valid and correct
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I think ghost rider should be a special envoy for the UN in brokering peace in the Middle East. Very calm under attack and doesn’t resort to insults.

I think you are much better off putting it on eBay or autotrader- and come back and tell everyone what you got for it. Everyone on here wants a car below market price. As everyone does in an ideal world...
Phil is right, the market is v bad at the moment. Hopefully someone will spot the spec that they want and offer a few more k’s. With it being a cat d, diesel and not repaired- I think the market for people wanting to pay 25+ will be small. At that price it would make a lovely daily driver for someone.
 
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No one wants a damaged diesel auto much these days, no matter how well specced or what badge is stuck on the front...
 
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As Navcorr mentioned it's all about market awareness and at the risk of blowing my own trumpet I do have knowledge of various marques. Hope I haven't been overly rude with my comments Ghostrider, just expressing my opinion and I'm happy to be proven wrong if you do get 29k plus and any more than a few hundred pounds for the plate
 
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