F1 Fluid Reservoir removal

rs48635

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Thanks. Hoped to make up my own hose using an "elbow adapter" if it exists. Perhaps the pipe is too short to allow that option. That one is about £150

Another pipe is £450 from maserati - the long one with two connectors far end and single at other. Hoping that one is intact on my car!
 
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rs48635 said:
Thanks. Hoped to make up my own hose using an "elbow adapter" if it exists. Perhaps the pipe is too short to allow that option. That one is about £150

Another pipe is £450 from maserati - the long one with two connectors far end and single at other. Hoping that one is intact on my car!
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Think it's to short for an elbow adaptor or any mods. The guys at pirtek did suggest that if the pipe to the pump is not split all the way through some tyre sealer would bond it and still provide enough flexibility.

The metal pipes on mine were ok and I am pleased as the prices are shocking but nothing we are not used to with Maserati parts.

The guys at Pirtek did say they could remake the metal pipes and I am sure it would be much cheaper.

My complete rubber pipe replacements plus clips and 2 X copper washers for the pump bolt was £8!

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Well done. It's really a poor situation that this reservoir-to-pump feed pipe has degraded. I guess the F1 fluid does get hot in use? Pressure-relieved hydraulic fluid also appears to tie-in to the reservoir (maybe that's hot). Also, its been my experience that North American rubber products have more longevity than euro-sourced components.
 
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Cdn17Sport6MT said:
Well done. It's really a poor situation that this reservoir-to-pump feed pipe has degraded. I guess the F1 fluid does get hot in use? Pressure-relieved hydraulic fluid also appears to tie-in to the reservoir (maybe that's hot). Also, its been my experience that North American rubber products have more longevity than euro-sourced components.
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Not sure about the temperature of the fluid but I know the pipes are exposed to heat from the box and the position of them means they are exposed to all sorts especially in UK weather!

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maseratimike7

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Some additional pictures if it helps anyone doing the same job. First picture is from below looking up at the pump and bottom of the reservoir with heat shield removed.

Second picture is the bleed nipple for the system at the quick release point, it's on the passenger side of the gearbox.

It requires a 11mm spanner and I used a hand vacuum pump to extract the air in the system.
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rs48635

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great work. Tempted to tackle my own now. Not so keen laying on the wet floor while actually raining though :(
 
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maseratimike7 said:
Black container is the F1 Fluid Reservoir, completed the removal at home.

Work requires access from the bottom and I already had the boot lining removed which helped to gain access from the top also.

Pirtek could supply all replacement hoses except the pipe from reservoir to pump as this is a specific reinforced pipe with different diameters each end.

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Seems that I will need to order that "specific reinforced pipe with different diameters each end" after all. Will call Ross Monday morning.
How much air can enter the system while the reservoir and feed pipes are off? Hoping to isolate battery when mine is done, so that pump will not run therefore no 'draw' will occur. Reading around it seems that pump might send overflow back to reservoir.
Perhaps my opportunity to buy another tool, off to search for "bleed nipple sucker"
 
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rs48635 said:
great work. Tempted to tackle my own now. Not so keen laying on the wet floor while actually raining though :(
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Yeah just give it a go, the worst part is getting the reservoir out! If your anything like me and a Indy is hours away the more you can learn to do the better.

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rs48635 said:
Seems that I will need to order that "specific reinforced pipe with different diameters each end" after all. Will call Ross Monday morning.
How much air can enter the system while the reservoir and feed pipes are off? Hoping to isolate battery when mine is done, so that pump will not run therefore no 'draw' will occur. Reading around it seems that pump might send overflow back to reservoir.
Perhaps my opportunity to buy another tool, off to search for "bleed nipple sucker"
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Not sure how air can or does enter the system. When bleeding mine a fair amount came out to be honest but this could also have been entering the system through the pipe split.

I always has the battery isolated for the entire duration. I only cycled it after the first bleed of the system so the pump could pull fluid through. I then bleed again 2 more times and finished with a top off.

Good luck!

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Karl GS

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I replaced this hose recently on my GS. You have to use the genuine rubber hose at it has a sharp bend and the outlet size is different at each end. I did not remove the reservoir.
After fitting the new hose and topping up the reservoir, to bleed out the air, I loosened the pressure pipe at the pump a small amount, about an eighth of a turn.
I then opened the door to operate the pump and let the fluid and air squirt out into a drain tin. I then refilled the reservoir and repeated this three times and re-tightened the pipe.
This procedure worked OK for me.
 
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Karl GS

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I should add, this is a high pressure system. Make sure no one is near the pump when you operate it as high pressure oil could squirt in any direction.
 
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Hey
maseratimike7 said:
Black container is the F1 Fluid Reservoir, completed the removal at home.

Work requires access from the bottom and I already had the boot lining removed which helped to gain access from the top also.

Pirtek could supply all replacement hoses except the pipe from reservoir to pump as this is a specific reinforced pipe with different diameters each end.

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I have to replace also this rubber hose and was originally thinking I could use a general rubber hose for oil. Have anyone done this or are you all buying the specific one from Maserati?
 
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My hoses were replaced this year, I understand a local hydraulic hose company supplied the replacement which was 1-10th the cost of the OEM part.
 
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exporschdrivr

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I didn't meant the hydraulic hose which are under pressure. I meant the feeding line from the reservoir to the pump which is just a rubber.. but I'm kind worried because is mentioned here that this one has different diameters at both ends...
 
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exporschdrivr said:
I didn't meant the hydraulic hose which are under pressure. I meant the feeding line from the reservoir to the pump which is just a rubber.. but I'm kind worried because is mentioned here that this one has different diameters at both ends...
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It has different sizes at both ends and a engineered 90 degree angle so you need the OEM one in this case. I was unable to find a third party supplier for this hose unfortunately.

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