High Miler - who's got one?

schell70

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There's been a lot of chat about Strad's and mileage and why people like low mileage so how about seeing where we are with the high miler's?

I'm interested to see when they start dying :eek:

I know there are quite a few high mile QP's but what about GT's?

Start with my 2008 GT @ 87k - just put 500 on it this weekend and it was a delight, 4 up with the kids in the back too.
 

Cdn17Sport6MT

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There are a good few high milage QP-V's with Duoselects for reasons of i) many folks drive them in automatic mode... which sacrifices clutches in favour of transaxle life, easing CV joint life, minimizing harsh engagements; ii) the Graziano 'box has triple-cone synchromesh units on first and second gears (quite robust) and double-cone synchro's on all of the other forward gears... and for reason that iii) automatics typically have only moderate cooling and moderate filtration of swarf... and these both take their respective tolls on life expectancy (versus a manual 'box). Often, fairly herculean efforts are necessary to improve cooling and filtration measures... that a typical owner will not undertake. This being said, the ZF box is a good one.
 

Sam McGoo

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I was literally gonna start the same thread a few hours ago, but got side tracked.

Also very interested as to whether there is any real reason for the high mileage hate on this forum, or it's just a hang up from older, more unreliable cars.
 

dickygrace

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I don’t think there is any high mileage ‘hate’ at all. My only issue is that cars with high mileage are often advertised at a figure that isn’t significantly adjusted to allow for the depreciation said mileage had incurred.
 
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My observation from Porsche ownership is that many high milers have a need for mileage-related (expensive) work that owners scrimp on. Thus a new owner runs a risk of inheriting a shed load of costs within the first year of ownership. High mileage in itself is not an issue.
 

dickygrace

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My observation from Porsche ownership is that many high milers have a need for mileage-related (expensive) work that owners scrimp on. Thus a new owner runs a risk of inheriting a shed load of costs within the first year of ownership. High mileage in itself is not an issue.
Precisely this. Well said.
 

Sam McGoo

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I don’t think there is any high mileage ‘hate’ at all. My only issue is that cars with high mileage are often advertised at a figure that isn’t significantly adjusted to allow for the depreciation said mileage had incurred.

Yeah, I get that. And when I was looking a few years ago, there didn't seem to be a big enough price difference to tempt me to a higher mileage one.
 

Sam McGoo

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My observation from Porsche ownership is that many high milers have a need for mileage-related (expensive) work that owners scrimp on. Thus a new owner runs a risk of inheriting a shed load of costs within the first year of ownership. High mileage in itself is not an issue.

Makes sense. It is why an independent PPI is essential (if you don't know these cars thoroughly) as you need to compare cars like for like.

But even if all service items and wear items were the same condition, the implied price drop (for it to actually sell) per 10k miles just seems very high on these, on what is essentially a modern reliable car.
 

bigbob

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Took mine out for a ten year spin and still can't believe how good it sounds. Modern cars have lost this sparkle with GPFs and try getting an interesting coupe with four seats. At the rate I am using my GTS now it will be on 100k miles at 20 years so no harm in it being a keeper given what how well they take the miles...especially since practically none of the spaghetti suspension components on my car have not been replaced!

I feel that cars that are not really, really rare and/or old will be taxed off the road quite quickly so enjoy Masers whilst we can. The alternative is that they are banned from any urban setting - doesn't bother me as I live next to some of the best driving roads in Scotland - and your 500 litres of E5 super is delivered every April at £5/litre in a plain wrapped truck. It feels like everyone I know is now getting Audi/Merc/Tesla BEV company cars. The western world is changing fast.
 

gb-gta

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It’s going to be like mad max by 2035 or 2040 trying to get fuel for your car.
 

Hawk13

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26000 miles on my GT - which is 4 years old - and I anticipate putting similar miles on over the next 4 years.
 

Ryandoc

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67k for me. 2009 GT.

Garaged in my 6 year ownership. Few issues along the way, mostly common ones. But running like a dream and by all accounts in fine fettle for its age.

I sold a BMW 320d a year or so ago. Bought on 93k sold on 264k. Had just failed an MOT on suspension, engine passed emissions no danger.

Ive ran a second high mileage car for 11 years now. Currently a 2006 A4 on 155 and it’s taught me that mileage is not the issue. Maintenance and care is end of.
My A4 had no history whatsoever, paid £1800 for it and put about 20k ish miles on it myself. I checked it out thoroughly myself and that’s what you need to do
 

Wanderer

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Mileage is like age in a person, some keep going and live till 90, some seemingly fit young pups die at 27. And to be honest it doesn't seem to matter if you've looked after yourself well, I tend to think it's extremes that do it, like these super-fit athletes that fall by wayside, and yet there's the 87 yo old fat bloke in the pub every night.

Switch the metaphor back, 18 year old tuned up GT has 12k miles on it, sits in the garage for months and then is taken for a razz, compared with 20 year old DD which has acquired its miles fairly leisurely wit the odd burst to free up the chambers, I think I know my preference.

Plus a 122k 2006 DS isn't worth a lot, so no worries about thrashing it much, it's earned it's money, both in usefulness and expense, sure there's a good few k in it yet, might last me before I become the archetypal myopic 80 year old going the wrong way down the M1.....
 

Aeroresh

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Mileage is like age in a person, some keep going and live till 90, some seemingly fit young pups die at 27. And to be honest it doesn't seem to matter if you've looked after yourself well, I tend to think it's extremes that do it, like these super-fit athletes that fall by wayside, and yet there's the 87 yo old fat bloke in the pub every night.

Switch the metaphor back, 18 year old tuned up GT has 12k miles on it, sits in the garage for months and then is taken for a razz, compared with 20 year old DD which has acquired its miles fairly leisurely wit the odd burst to free up the chambers, I think I know my preference.

Plus a 122k 2006 DS isn't worth a lot, so no worries about thrashing it much, it's earned it's money, both in usefulness and expense, sure there's a good few k in it yet, might last me before I become the archetypal myopic 80 year old going the wrong way down the M1.....

Yeah but its generally age that kills cars not mileage as long as theyve been appropriately maintained properly. Every car was designed with a certain design life regardless of what us owners would like to believe. Maserati is no different to say ford or anyone else in this respect. Get to 10 years+ Regardless of mileage and stuff beyond consumables degrade, and we’re really just playing with time. The main issue with our cars is they cost so much more to put right so some owners would rather walk depending how much the car means to them
 

rs48635

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only up to 102k miles on my 2006 QP and expect the GranTurismo can do plenty miles too. At 15 years old I am pleasantly surprised with the general health of this car.
The subframe is the big killer on QP and GT but everything except the engine could result in economic write off.

After chat with Atillio today who is fixing the F1 leak I suspect the later engines might be slightly less robust. The dry sumped engine might be eyed with suspicion due to association with a certain DS gearchnage but maybe the odd couple make sense in the long run