4 seat Stradale under 50k

Zep

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Not sure I understand Dicky’s point.
I am sure that a £10k saving isn’t immaterial. Don’t we all agree that a driven car is not a bad thing and that it’s all about the condition of the car as opposed to mileage?
Why do we assume that a car with a mere extra 16k miles is necessarily in sub par condition and hence should command a bigger discount than the £10k offer? Beats me

But have you seen the dashboard badge?! :p
 

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Not sure I understand Dicky’s point.
I am sure that a £10k saving isn’t immaterial. Don’t we all agree that a driven car is not a bad thing and that it’s all about the condition of the car as opposed to mileage?
Why do we assume that a car with a mere extra 16k miles is necessarily in sub par condition and hence should command a bigger discount than the £10k offer? Beats me

Was just reading Dicky's thoughts again and I didn't really get it either. Surely if you are a buyer and have a budget of 50k then that's your budget no matter if paying cash or financing. I also wouldn't be put off by higher miles as agree a driven car can be more reliable than a garage queen with all those moving parts moving. I do understand though that if you come to sell it will be worth less than the one that has not done many miles but you took a saving when you bought it.

My point on this car is that it would be great for someone who was looking at a standard car up to 50k as it puts a Stradale in their budget which they may have not thought about.

The Stradale is just a great car and well worth that 50k .....but......I wouldn't be the car for me as its just too big for as a sports car and a sports car is what I would want it for. I've driven two and loved them but they certainly weren't a point and squirt car which with the roads around by me it is what I would want... But to eat up the miles or on a wide road with sweeping bends it's a hoot or just on a road trip it's perfect I bet. It's certainly an event.
 

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Not sure I understand Dicky’s point.
I am sure that a £10k saving isn’t immaterial. Don’t we all agree that a driven car is not a bad thing and that it’s all about the condition of the car as opposed to mileage?
Why do we assume that a car with a mere extra 16k miles is necessarily in sub par condition and hence should command a bigger discount than the £10k offer? Beats me

A mere 40,000 miles, not 16,000. Huge difference. I think some of us confuse cheap with good value. It’s cheap, but relatively, in my opinion, it’s not good value.
 
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A mere 40,000 miles, not 16,000. Huge difference. I think some of us confuse cheap with good value. It’s cheap, but relatively, in my opinion, it’s not good value.
I have just seen the white 16k miles Strad on your website, I agree it is incredible value. If I could live with a white car (and I realise most people can), I’d consider that instead, as £9k is def not enough of a difference to make me buy a car w 40k more miles on the clock.
I am very surprised that car hasn’t sold already !!
Out of curiosity, what sort of rates are available on financing these days?
 

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£9k is def not enough of a difference to make me buy a car with 40k more miles on the clock.
I am very surprised that car hasn’t sold already !!
Out of curiosity, what sort of rates are available on financing these days?
Thanks, that’s exactly the point I was trying to make too. Finance is at about 6% give or take at present.
 

rivarama

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Thanks, that’s exactly the point I was trying to make too. Finance is at about 6% give or take at present.
If I had enough parking at home, I’d add a stradale to the mix. I am finding more and more difficult to drive the Ferrari’s and not upsetting the kid that is left behind as I only have 2 seaters. The strad would solve that problem !!
 

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If I had enough parking at home, I’d add a stradale to the mix. I am finding more and more difficult to drive the Ferrari’s and not upsetting the kid that is left behind as I only have 2 seaters. The strad would solve that problem !!

Wait for the children to get older and then they can leave you behind. :)
 

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On the subject of finance, imo the 6% rate is actually quite high (though I'm sure people would pay more to fulfil their dream). Natwest gives unsecured loans of up to £20k for less than 3.5% and base rate is so close to zero that makes no difference. Is it lack of competition on that market or are the underwriting standards so low that you need to have such a high rate to make it profitable?
 

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Love the look of the strad, but more so the front than the rear.

Value and mileage are a crule mistress; if the car is good to drive then you drive it and hit the value.

I note the higher miles MCV failed to sell and came in for a spanking for being 'used', I suspect the same will happen with strads over x miles... and as there are far more than MCVs I can't see them going as far north, unless below 20k miles in another 4/5 years.

So you either squirrel them away (or have a fleet of other exotics to use) or face the reality that it will be worth c£40k in two more years time.
 

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If I had enough parking at home, I’d add a stradale to the mix. I am finding more and more difficult to drive the Ferrari’s and not upsetting the kid that is left behind as I only have 2 seaters. The strad would solve that problem !!

Take the passenger seat out of the Ferrari and leave both kids behind.

Problem solved :laugh:
 

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How does a Strad compare to a GS? Its widely agreed that the GS is sportier than the regular GT but what about the Strad as its much closer to the GS with its transaxle and single clutch box.
 

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I love the Stradale/GT and want values to be preserved but the mileage and year of this car doesnt strike me as great value.

Imo this is a 42k car
 

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How does a Strad compare to a GS? Its widely agreed that the GS is sportier than the regular GT but what about the Strad as its much closer to the GS with its transaxle and single clutch box.

There are quite a few different flavours of GT. a 4.2 auto is a nice grand tourer, a 4.7 MC shift (GT S) is a pretty sporty drive, feels slightly less well resolved with skyhook. The Stradale has fixed rate suspension, it lighter than the normal GTS and has a touch more power than the early cars. It drives very differently, the damping feels more resolved, the 4.7 has more low down torque and the gearshift is brutal in race mode. It would be better to compare a Strad to an MCV, I loved my GS but the Strad is a different car on many levels.
 

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On the subject of finance, imo the 6% rate is actually quite high (though I'm sure people would pay more to fulfil their dream). Natwest gives unsecured loans of up to £20k for less than 3.5% and base rate is so close to zero that makes no difference. Is it lack of competition on that market or are the underwriting standards so low that you need to have such a high rate to make it profitable?
That or home equity line at 1.45% :)
 

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There are quite a few different flavours of GT. a 4.2 auto is a nice grand tourer, a 4.7 MC shift (GT S) is a pretty sporty drive, feels slightly less well resolved with skyhook. The Stradale has fixed rate suspension, it lighter than the normal GTS and has a touch more power than the early cars. It drives very differently, the damping feels more resolved, the 4.7 has more low down torque and the gearshift is brutal in race mode. It would be better to compare a Strad to an MCV, I loved my GS but the Strad is a different car on many levels.
Never tried a Strad. I really loved my GT 4.2 but clearly just a grand tourer. I’d love to see how close in stiffness / perf the strad is to my 550/430
 

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There are quite a few different flavours of GT. a 4.2 auto is a nice grand tourer, a 4.7 MC shift (GT S) is a pretty sporty drive, feels slightly less well resolved with skyhook. The Stradale has fixed rate suspension, it lighter than the normal GTS and has a touch more power than the early cars. It drives very differently, the damping feels more resolved, the 4.7 has more low down torque and the gearshift is brutal in race mode. It would be better to compare a Strad to an MCV, I loved my GS but the Strad is a different car on many levels.
So I guess the GS is the equivalent of the MC Shift, whereas the MCV is comparable to the Strad. I was just wondering the main differences between the older models to the GTs that have the semi-auto. The Automatic GTs are a much less visceral ride than the GS which is one of my favorite things about the GS, so I imagine the MC Stradale brings a lot that feeling back.
 

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On the subject of finance, imo the 6% rate is actually quite high (though I'm sure people would pay more to fulfil their dream). Natwest gives unsecured loans of up to £20k for less than 3.5% and base rate is so close to zero that makes no difference. Is it lack of competition on that market or are the underwriting standards so low that you need to have such a high rate to make it profitable?
IMO it’s high yes. Personal loans don’t cater for balloon payments etc so the lenders don’t need to compete with them. The 6% I mentioned earlier is also about the lowest attainable at present unless buying a Ferrari on FFS finance, or an overpriced heap on 0% deals. Underwriting standards are now incredibly stringent for low % Apr deals, and expensive cars, I don’t really know about more mainstream cars.
 

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So I guess the GS is the equivalent of the MC Shift, whereas the MCV is comparable to the Strad. I was just wondering the main differences between the older models to the GTs that have the semi-auto. The Automatic GTs are a much less visceral ride than the GS which is one of my favorite things about the GS, so I imagine the MC Stradale brings a lot that feeling back.

The ride even in a Strad is more comfortable, but still very firm. There is more overall grip and the steering is more direct. Mine is a two seater and to me it is every bit as visceral as a GS and quite a lot faster from the drivers seat. There is a good reason why it makes VBH giggle like a schoolgirl.