Air Condition control unit - ECU

F456M

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Hi Arvid. Interesting to read about your "journey". I helped a Norwegian Spyder III owner many years ago. More or less the same problem. People had been ajusting things. Idle went up and down and too high. I testdrove the car. First thing I noticed, was that when engine breaking downhill, the engine did not brake with fuel cut off like my own 222 4v. Biturbo. But instead I could hear some small explostions in the exhaust (like an old carburator Biturbo with no fuel cut off). The early fuel injection Biturbos had fuel cut off at zero throttle until it resched a low 1500 rpm. The throttle body stop screw (adjusting the butterfly opening) was not far enough OUT. The butterfly should be closing almost completely. When the butterfly is all the way closed, the Throttle position sensor shall be adjusted so that it is in its end position ("zero throttle"). There is also one air bypass screw where you can adjust the "blow by" or "leak" when the butterfly is closed. The ECU needs to understand thst the throttle is closed to engage the idle air control / speed valve. Which should continiously adjust the right amount of air. The MAP sensor monitors the manifuld vacuum or pressure and will correct the amount of fuel to the injectors relative to the rpms and high/low engine load. That means if the throttle is too open or the bypass canal and screw give too much "natural air", the flow through the idle air control (electronic solenoid valve) is too small and it will not work properly. I attach two pics of my 1991 222 4v. that I should bnever have sold in 2005.
Erik
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Arvid

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Hi Erik,

It was a journey for sure. It was a trial of rights and wrongs - mostly wrongs ;)I ended up buying the official workshop manuals to get correct info. It became to difficult to solve the problem based on online advice and my own lack of understanding this engine. The WSM indeed pointed out many areas that needed to be checked and adjusted. Still not completely happy with the cold start but much better than before. In reality it's not a problem as the car is not used off-season.

The 222 4v is a lovely car. I have a soft spot for the 4-doors so a late 430 4v would be very welcome in the garage.
 

F456M

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Hi Erik,

It was a journey for sure. It was a trial of rights and wrongs - mostly wrongs ;)I ended up buying the official workshop manuals to get correct info. It became to difficult to solve the problem based on online advice and my own lack of understanding this engine. The WSM indeed pointed out many areas that needed to be checked and adjusted. Still not completely happy with the cold start but much better than before. In reality it's not a problem as the car is not used off-season.

The 222 4v is a lovely car. I have a soft spot for the 4-doors so a late 430 4v would be very welcome in the garage.

There were some 430 4v. fir sale in Sweden. Very rare car. The earlier fuel injection Biturbos had programmed a varm-up phase of 30 seconds ar 2-2500 rpms. It was to "warm up the catalyzers".. Quite annoying actually. It might be so that the QP also is warming up the cats and the rest of the engine. Just in a slightly less annoying way. Same for Lamborghini Diablos. My buddy has several and his 2001 Diablo 6,0 ifle at 1800 rpm. about a minute after start up.
Where are ypu in Norway?
 

Arvid

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Might be same warm-up program on QP4 but I'm not sure. Sounds plausible. I'm located on the west side - 5750 Odda. The current tally of Italians in this town are 5 Alfa's,approx.20 Fiat's,3 Maserati's,1 Lancia and 1 Ferrari. Easy to keep score in a tiny town ;)