Attention all QPV connoisseurs Advice needed. About to pull trigger on QPV 4.2

P5Nij

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For what it’s worth, I have had 2 GS’s, Granturismo S, Sport, MC Strad and GranCab Sport, all from new, so have had the full combo of 4.2, 4.7, auto-manual and ZF Auto.

I always hankered after a non facelift QPV Sport GT with the CambioCorsa box and managed to find one back in May. The intention was to put it away as a project car as I plan to do a QPV RestoMod project over the next few years ranging from expensive to “stupid” BUT I have been using it almost as a DD as it is that good. Ok, my dislike of Skyhook is well documented and the passive set up in the Strad was/is awesome, but it’s one of the best balanced cars I have ever owned and/or driven.

I never liked the facelift and didn’t want auto and have absolutely no regrets in getting a 4.2… ok the RestoMod project plans to amend that, but I will choose to drive it over all my other cars at the moment…

Good luck,

Stu

Stu, just about every magazine review and youtube 'guru' report I've seen on the duo-select box says it's a pain in the **** and to be avoided, but in the real world what is it actually like on a day to day basis? Does the clutch wear out as quickly as they say it does? Is there a particular way they have to be driven in or out of sport mode? I've never driven one and have had my eye on some 2007 to 2009 pre-facelift ZF QPVs, but there are a lot more duo-select cars well within my budget too. Is the Sport GT a definite improvement on the earlier cars as far as the gearbox goes? Obviously with the age of these earlier cars the subframe and variator issues arise too, but I'm keen to learn what they're really like to own and drive.

Ta ;)
 

rs48635

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Stu, just about every magazine review and youtube 'guru' report I've seen on the duo-select box says it's a pain in the **** and to be avoided, but in the real world what is it actually like on a day to day basis? Does the clutch wear out as quickly as they say it does? Is there a particular way they have to be driven in or out of sport mode? I've never driven one and have had my eye on some 2007 to 2009 pre-facelift ZF QPVs, but there are a lot more duo-select cars well within my budget too. Is the Sport GT a definite improvement on the earlier cars as far as the gearbox goes? Obviously with the age of these earlier cars the subframe and variator issues arise too, but I'm keen to learn what they're really like to own and drive.

Ta ;)
Have same car - pre-facelift QP V Sport GT. This means the pretty shape with 6 speed transaxle connected via clutch operated by F1 system (electro hydraulic). Owned since 2014 and used as daily driver, mainly in auto mode for transit driving. Always in manual and often sport when it's just me. Same clutch with 36k miles added. Was "very worn" when car was bought. Measured 86% worn out several years back. How much good clutch material should I throw out?

When reading reviews from industry experts, remember they see so many cars that all deviation from the "normal"might look bad. Think of it like a right hander picking up left handed scissors for the first time. Eughhh!
 

safrane

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Only drive one QP with a full auto and it was... well like most cars with a full auto. The plethora of CC (DS) cars I have driven have never been the same as each other, but one thing was clear after getting my first new clutch - a decent set up car is pretty good if you do not compare to a full auto.

The first time I drove a 4200cc I was surprised with how clunky it was in Auto, but once I got use to the manual paddle shift it was much nicer... these 'testers' expect too much IMO of cars that are c20-15 years old and I suspect the eat clutch idea is from the fact that Maserati replaced clutches as part of their approved used car programme far to early to try and keep values up.

I know it is a different car, but I get c1k miles from each % of clutch wear, and this has been replicated in each of the 3 I have owned.
 
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rs48635

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Is the Sport GT a definite improvement on the earlier cars as far as the gearbox goes?

Ta ;)
YES
The regular DuoSelect is likely the one tested in reviews. Sport GT had quicker shifts by <some percentage> which makes a real world difference. I always forget that regular DS gear change is different to my own and might well be "dim-witted".

Most likely software update only but unaware of any modification available/installed on QP. I do know one member @MAF260 who had software upgrade to his GranSport using Ferrari 360 program.
 

makeshiftUK

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The regular DuoSelect is likely the one tested in reviews. Sport GT had quicker shifts by <some percentage> which makes a real world difference. Most likely software update but unaware of any modification available. I do know one member @MAF260 who had software upgrade to his GranSport using Ferrari 360 program.
I wonder if the Sport GT had the same software upgrade as enjoyed by the GranSport, some 35% quicker to change than the 4200 Cambio Corsa?
 

P5Nij

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Thanks for the replies on the due-select query gents, all duly noted ;).

I know that some people look on the facelift ZF QPVs as a 'safe bet' but I much prefer the looks of the earlier cars, for me Pininfarina got it bang on first time. Plenty out there to choose from anyway.