Brexit Deal

[lozcb]

Suggest you reread my post. You’re not getting the point.

I understand exactly your point .................you cant get a work permit in time because of the delays ..................then take a longer contract and dont even consider 3 to 6 month ones .................thats the system mate abide by it .............. failing that do what the illegal immigrants do and arrive with no papers ..........forget how old you are but say your a bloody good mainframe fitter and ask for a job down at the local arbeitsampt

 

[Davidt99]

Funny how the border in Ireland is an EU issue now.
Is fishing an EU issue as well
How about the massive form filling for exports? Is that the EU’s fault?
I guess devaluation of the pound was as well.
the huge queues of lorries at Ashford waiting for clearance and the queues on the M20 are the EU’s fault.
The expected 9% fall in GDP is probably their fault as well.

About time we looked closer to home isn’t it?

Yes on nearly all points.

 

[Wanderer]

I understand exactly your point .................you cant get a work permit in time because of the delays ..................then take a longer contract and dont even consider 3 to 6 month ones .................thats the system mate abide by it .............. failing that do what the illegal immigrants do and arrive with no papers ..........forget how old you are but say your a bloody good mainframe fitter and ask for a job down at the local arbeitsampt

I do agree but the fact is for me it was easy now it’s almost impossible.

But we fight on, I have my Belgian residency (took 5 months and still no official residency card) as a cross border worker working in Luxembourg, I need no work permit now going forward but can only work in Luxembourg. There are worse places. It’s the only way for me anyway and hopefully eventually gain Luxembourgish citizenship and get back what I had before. But that does still rankle I’m afraid cos I didn’t vote for it. I’m 59 BTW.

Let’s leave it there, I don’t want to get into a war of words.

All the best

 

[Saigon]

Does anyone know if Brexit has affected warranties. I purchased something which had a two year warranty which was only applicable if the purchaser (me) resided in the EEA and purchased it in the EEA. At the time of purchase both of the above were applicable and true, but right now due to Brexit officially I no longer reside EEA, but I did when I purchased the item ?.

 

[Wanderer]

My bro is unhappy, wanted to buy this s/h guitar from NL, rare (Shergold Modulator 6 bass) €1500 except its now plus 6% duty and 20% VAT on top of price and duty (and shipping) plus processing fee.

No one on this this earth can convince me Brexit has any benefit to the ordinary folks of the UK. I really wish there was - there just isn't, just dubious intangibles such as this mysterious Sovereignty, control of borders (that's working out well) and creating our own super-duper trade deals like Soya from Japan when we get most of from China anyway.

'Ever get the feeling you've been lied to?' - John Lydon...

 

[Oneball]

My bro is unhappy, wanted to buy this s/h guitar from NL, rare (Shergold Modulator 6 bass) €1500 except its now plus 6% duty and 20% VAT on top of price and duty (and shipping) plus processing fee.

No one on this this earth can convince me Brexit has any benefit to the ordinary folks of the UK. I really wish there was - there just isn't, just dubious intangibles such as this mysterious Sovereignty, control of borders (that's working out well) and creating our own super-duper trade deals like Soya from Japan when we get most of from China anyway.

'Ever get the feeling you've been lied to?' - John Lydon...

But he won’t be paying the VAT in NL. So it’s not really any different to before.

 

[Wanderer]

But he won’t be paying the VAT in NL. So it’s not really any different to before.

Not sure that's true mate. He bough a similar (Marathon) guitar from the same guy just last year and just paid the €1500 plus his own-arranged collection shipping and indeed I bough a Shergold Masquerader from a guy in Spain with no VAT or equiv. - just the price but my own collection shipping. Mine was €320 though - bargain!

Prior to Brexit Ive never paid any duty of VAT on anything EU and believe me I've bought a lot of cr4p!

 

[Oneball]

Not sure that's true mate. He bough a similar (Marathon) guitar from the same guy just last year and just paid the €1500 plus his own-arranged collection shipping and indeed I bough a Shergold Masquerader from a guy in Spain with no VAT or equiv. - just the price but my own collection shipping. Mine was €320 though - bargain!

Prior to Brexit Ive never paid any duty of VAT on anything EU and believe me I've bought a lot of cr4p!

The rules on what you pay VAT on haven’t changed it’s just where you pay it that has. Of course I may be talking ********, coz let’s be honest it’s still a ******* daft idea.

 

[Wanderer]

Of course the guitars are personal purchases not business purchases so dunno if that has an effect...

 

[lozcb]

My bro is unhappy, wanted to buy this s/h guitar from NL, rare (Shergold Modulator 6 bass) €1500 except its now plus 6% duty and 20% VAT on top of price and duty (and shipping) plus processing fee.

No one on this this earth can convince me Brexit has any benefit to the ordinary folks of the UK. I really wish there was - there just isn't, just dubious intangibles such as this mysterious Sovereignty, control of borders (that's working out well) and creating our own super-duper trade deals like Soya from Japan when we get most of from China anyway.

'Ever get the feeling you've been lied to?' - John Lydon...

Assuming your a UK tax contributor then then the Chancellor will have an extra £433 per person each year to spend on good causes or give tax rebates ........... assuming 30 million tax contributors, commrad you know it makes sense , and when was John Lydon worth taking seriously ....very Billy Bragg i'd say

 

[philw696]

The way I see it it's a 6% increase as you pay the vat in your country then the duty on top.

 

[Oneball]

Assuming your a UK tax contributor then then the Chancellor will have an extra £433 per person each year to spend on good causes or give tax rebates ........... assuming 30 million tax contributors, commrad you know it makes sense , and when was John Lydon worth taking seriously ....very Billy Bragg i'd say

Dear lord are they increasing the duty on French cheese by that much?

 

[MarkMas]

Absolutely Spot on Mark.
Nail on the head there mate.

Thank you! Oh, wait.....

 

[MarkMas]

Funny how the border in Ireland is an EU issue now.
Is fishing an EU issue as well
How about the massive form filling for exports? Is that the EU’s fault?
I guess devaluation of the pound was as well.
the huge queues of lorries at Ashford waiting for clearance and the queues on the M20 are the EU’s fault.
The expected 9% fall in GDP is probably their fault as well.

About time we looked closer to home isn’t it?

Well, of course Brexit has created 'EU issues', but the point is that the UK's confusion and incompetence and the EU's intransigence and bad faith made them all much worse.

The border in Ireland was a fudge that worked better when the UK and Ireland were both in the EU, but - due to Brexit - the EU demanded unnecessary clarity, which made it more of an issue now.

Fishing wasn't an issue because the UK gave up fishing rights to join the EU and - due to Brexit - The UK wanted those rights back, but the EU thought it was ok to want to keep them.

Massive form filling became an issue because the EU bureaucracy (and trade cartel) already meant that there were 24 separate steps for, say, New Zealand to export a lamb chop to, say, France, and the EU decided to try to impose the same level of protectionist bureaucracy on the UK when it left. So you can view that as the UK being crazy going from 4 steps to 24, or the EU being an evil protectionist cartel for having 24 steps for outsiders in the first place, and also for unnecessarily and vindictively imposing them on the UK.

What devaluation of the pound? Do you mean the correction of the bubble between mid 2014 and mid 2016?



For the huge queues of lorries (do these really exist now?), see 'massive form filling' above.

The expected 9% fall in GDP is a speculative forecast by the same economists who predicted this would happen immediately after the vote, which it didn't.

Yes we could 'look closer to home' but basically there could have been a good Brexit, if the UK hadn't been incompetent and the EU hadn't been evil.

 

[lozcb]

Well, of course Brexit has created 'EU issues', but the point is that the UK's confusion and incompetence and the EU's intransigence and bad faith made them all much worse.

The border in Ireland was a fudge that worked better when the UK and Ireland were both in the EU, but - due to Brexit - the EU demanded unnecessary clarity, which made it more of an issue now.

Fishing wasn't an issue because the UK gave up fishing rights to join the EU and - due to Brexit - The UK wanted those rights back, but the EU thought it was ok to want to keep them.

Massive form filling became an issue because the EU bureaucracy (and trade cartel) already meant that there were 24 separate steps for, say, New Zealand to export a lamb chop to, say, France, and the EU decided to try to impose the same level of protectionist bureaucracy on the UK when it left. So you can view that as the UK being crazy going from 4 steps to 24, or the EU being an evil protectionist cartel for having 24 steps for outsiders in the first place, and also for unnecessarily and vindictively imposing them on the UK.

What devaluation of the pound? Do you mean the correction of the bubble between mid 2014 and mid 2016?

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For the huge queues of lorries (do these really exist now?), see 'massive form filling' above.

The expected 9% fall in GDP is a speculative forecast by the same economists who predicted this would happen immediately after the vote, which it didn't.

Yes we could 'look closer to home' but basically there could have been a good Brexit, if the UK hadn't been incompetent and the EU hadn't been evil.

Spot on Mark .............It so easily could of been a win win , now its just a slow win ................................the good news is we have eveything to gain providing we get more efficient again , and stop this woke business dragging things down, I wish i could forsee good things for Europe in the future , but all the time Brussels reaction to any crisis is to raise the levels of beaurocracy ( utter madness), there is no doubt in my mind the EU will fail possibly within the next 10 years, faster implosion if any one of the major countries also decide to leave.................. To me its always been very KIngs clothes

 

[Corranga]

this woke business

What do you think this means?

 

[Saigon]

What do you think this means?

I have no idea, but there is too much of it!

 

[Oneball]

What do you think this means?

They manufacture alarm clocks.

 

[lozcb]

What do you think this means?

Society agenda change ........perpetrated by the please dont offend me crowd ...........started in schools 30 odd years ago with the sports day scenario (every kids a winner ) its the taking part that counts Tarquin no losers here ( what bllox ) and not reality of life itself .............Life is all about winners and losers, what purpose does it serve other than to give kids a false ideology of what lifes all about

 

[Corranga]

Society agenda change ........perpetrated by the please dont offend me crowd ...........started in schools 30 odd years ago with the sports day scenario (every kids a winner ) its the taking part that counts Tarquin no losers here ( what bllox ) and not reality of life itself .............Life is all about winners and losers, what purpose does it serve other than to give kids a false ideology of what lifes all about

I’d recommend looking into it as you’re somewhat of the mark. Maybe 30 years ago that’s what it meant, but things change.
It’s difficult to come up with an analogy for what I think of someone who uses ’woke’ as a put down, I guess it’s similar to what most people think of those who were on the side of slavery, once they realised what it meant, or those that believe a woman deserves to be raped because of the dress she wore, or that people from a certain race deserves to be treated worse, or even killed more than others.

Simply put it’s about being alert to injustices in society. With Black Lives Matters being at the forefront at the moment, racism is a large part of that definition too.

You are right, life is all about winners and losers, being ‘woke’ isn’t about making it all the same, it’s about injustices based on natural things that you have no control over. It’s about a white man already starting the game of life with more points than a blank woman. It’s about evening the playing field.
Now, you might think you want to have a head start, and that’s ok too, but how much of a head start do you want?
For example do you think it’s fair that a black person is more likely to be killed, beaten, arrested, or imprisoned than a white one? Not for anything they’ve done, just for being black.
Do you think women should be paid less than men for the same job?
Do you think disabled people are somehow less than their enabled counterparts?
What about lesbians, is it ok to fetishise women simply because of who they are attracted to and love, or should gay men be beat because of the same?

You have the choice to disagree with all of this, they don’t. They can’t stop being black or female or gay, we can stop treating them like lesser beings though. Then we can all go about the game of life as normal and see who wins.