Brexit Deal

[BennyD]

In the short term. Political and economic strife is coming down the pipe but the EU still have their heads in the sand. Whilst they appear to be unconcerned, time will show that they are in the denial stage.

 

[Lozzer]

The EU cannot be trusted and is going down the swanny, at least if we go down the swanny it will be at our own hand. It doesn't have to be that way though, Do you think for one second this would be allowed to happen if the powers that be didn't want it? Put the future of the country in the hands of us simpletons? I don't think so.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Boris cannot be trusted either

 

[Lozzer]

Boris cannot be trusted either

True, no politician can be.

 

[Zep]

What is it then? 50.1% is a democratic majority.

It is indeed, and I am relaxed about the fact that we should be leaving.

However, a full on hard brexit would, in my view, come under the heading of “the tyranny of the majority” and doesn’t recognise that there was a spread of views in the leave camp too.

Still, it is what it is, let’s hope for a good final outcome.

 

[Saigon]

This may have already been asked and I missed it. Can a British Citizen go to Europe for more than 90 days at a time from 1/1/2021? What do people with homes there do?
I read yesterday that it would be a maximum stay of 90 days.

For anyone genuinely interested in (facts) regarding Brexit, gaining residency, lengths of stay rules, health care, Insurance etc I can recommend guidebookspain.com, specifically (the guides section)
The web site is obviously geared to Spain, but the theory in many cases does apply to other countries as well. A lot of fact checking has been undertaken by Jim before compiling these guides and he includes all the necessary cross references to the appropriate gov sites, very professional.

 

[Silvercat]

How arrogant has the UK been over the past 3 years negotiating. Our politicians still think we live in the old colonial times, where the world feared us and would bow in front of us at our every demand.

What was impossible for Boris and his illuminati to understand is that Europe doesn’t care about the UK as much as it cares about the integrity of the union of its member states.

From Day 1, Europe had been very clear. There has been no bluff.
Boris with his usual misplaced bravado thought he’d make Europe change its view.

Macron and Merkel didn’t even want to meet with him yesterday. They repeated today that the lead negotiator Barnier and EU commission leader Ursula are empowered to negotiate on their behalf.

All Europeans leaders have been meeting all day today, and the Brexit topic was allocated only 8min... 8min?!?! That’s how important Brexit is to them, they’ve given up and moved on.

Only Boris continues to make a fuss and tell himself pretty stories about how he will save the day. The joke is on you Boris.

So we should expect the inevitable...the UK should now walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that we now have. Better that than becoming a vassal state and puppet of the EU....there I've said it now!

 

[Swedish Paul]

So we should expect the inevitable...the UK should now walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that we now have. Better that than becoming a vassal state and puppet of the EU....there I've said it now!

Wasn’t that the whole point?

 

[Lozzer]

So we should expect the inevitable...the UK should now walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that we now have. Better that than becoming a vassal state and puppet of the EU....there I've said it now!

Yep...the UK should walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that is the EU.

 

[BennyD]

This isn’t relevant to the Brexit situation but it is political so I’ll post it here; Labour MP Kate Green is calling for the ‘offensive and divisive’ honours relating to the British Empire to be scrapped. However, she did say that she thought ‘long and hard’ before deciding to accept her OBE because it would thrill her father. What. A. C*nt. Instead of calling for it to be scrapped, why not make the political point of handing it back before saying it should be scrapped? The hypocritical b!tch should be sacked, bull whipped and transported to some distant, forgotten war zone run by white slavers. Those Westminster b4stards never cease to amaze me with their abject stupidity.

 

[philw696]

This isn’t relevant to the Brexit situation but it is political so I’ll post it here; Labour MP Kate Green is calling for the ‘offensive and divisive’ honours relating to the British Empire to be scrapped. However, she did say that she thought ‘long and hard’ before deciding to accept her OBE because it would thrill her father. What. A. C*nt. Instead of calling for it to be scrapped, why not make the political point of handing it back before saying it should be scrapped? The hypocritical b!tch should be sacked, bull whipped and transported to some distant, forgotten war zone run by white slavers. Those Westminster b4stards never cease to amaze me with their abject stupidity.

Finding myself agreeing with you there Ian.
So many fakes and frauds in Westminster all about them and very little about the people of the Country they actually represent.

 

[rivarama]

Yep...the UK should walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that is the EU.

I guess that’s the only option we have left now. Take our loss and get to work.
It will be interested to look at a graph tracking EU vs UK inflation and gdp growth over time.

 

[rivarama]

One thing that this whole Brexit thing managed to do very well is to split a country and turn us against each other.
Reading comments under each Brexit article and post on newspapers, social media etc... is horrific. Hate speach, insult, misinformation and of course very little based on correct facts.
I would have thought that fighting the common enemy which is Covid would have united us and helped us turn the Brexit page, but that just made it worse.
I know we have the politicians and the country we deserve, but that’s very sad to see.

 

[Silvercat]

So we should expect the inevitable...the UK should now walk away and focus on building its own future from the mess that we now have. Better that than becoming a vassal state and puppet of the EU....there I've said it now!

And as of this morning, the Royal Navy patrol vessels are being positioned to intercept fishing boats illegally fishing in our waters......cod wars all over again!

 

[Excalibur]

And as of this morning, the Royal Navy patrol vessels are being positioned to intercept fishing boats illegally fishing in our waters......cod wars all over again!

They cannot even stop illegals in rubber boats in the Channel, yet alone French fishermen.

 

[Wattie]

And as of this morning, the Royal Navy patrol vessels are being positioned to intercept fishing boats illegally fishing in our waters......cod wars all over again!

In theory there shouldn’t be any. Macron and other leaders should reel their fishermen in - they know the law if a deal isn’t done.

 

[Wattie]

I guess that’s the only option we have left now. Take our loss and get to work.
It will be interested to look at a graph tracking EU vs UK inflation and gdp growth over time.

You can expect a helluva lot more “stimulus” from both sides too!

 

[boomerang]

For a very long time now, I hear “brexit” every Saturday morning on a Dutch news radio network.
A long and sad story, with no winners anywhere in the end.
For both of us, importing and exporting will suffer, one way or another.
We where already warned by our suppliers, that QED, Q Acoustics, Cambridge Audio, Bowers & Wilkins products for example, will be more expensive in the near future and quick delivery will suffer anyhow.
Would be very sad, if after such a long time negotiating, hard brexit is the only result obtained.
Let us just hope on a final Christmas miracle...

 

[Silvercat]

They cannot even stop illegals in rubber boats in the Channel, yet alone French fishermen.

Perhaps.... but the political stakes are now very different and have been multiplied many times over. So watch previously mothballed naval ships ( a lot of them in Portsmouth dockyard) come back into service again and drones being used much more.
For sure the French will just let the Refugees in Calais have a free for all now. No incentive to stop them so UK better get ready for a deluge of rubber dinghies trying to cross the channel.
This has all the hallmarks of a potentially serious situation escalating very quickly.

 

[Phil the Brit]

They cannot even stop illegals in rubber boats in the Channel, yet alone French fishermen.

Can I assume that it would be illegal for our warships to blow the French fishing boats out of the water (as in 1545) if they are fishing in the three mile limits? (Not that we need a three mile limit, viz The Belgrano in the falklands war). Sink a few and the rest would go back to france?
Apparently there are more fish hanging around in our waters than we can eat. So, more serious question, why can't we just catch tons of fish and SELL them to the French?