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iainw

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I have both for variable periods and they are very different. Agree with RWCs and Ewan’s comments. The Cali (esp a 30) is Amazing VFM and much better exhaust sound. I loved it - and felt the best VFM for me. The T was just much better inside and the tech and extra Hp was attractive. For me it would be a Cali 30 at circa 90k with Larini clubsport x pipes and sports cats- if you have balls of steel and no warranty- or a jump to 127k for a Cali T with the HS pack and more throaty exhaust...
 

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BuckRog64

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Put your Strad up for sale now so you have plenty of time to try and get the max for it. That way, as a ’cash buyer’ you can pull their pants down as they will want to move their stock on.
I think that risks it sitting for sale for months and punters then either 1) Assume there is something wrong with it or 2) Make silly offers knowing seller can't get shot of it. Forum members that have priced their cars correctly seem to sell them fairly quickly.
 

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This sort of reflects what I’m finding at the moment even at the £40k-£50k end of the market.

I’m being told that very little is selling so can’t offer me much on my GS. Don’t mind that provided I’m seeing a similar adjustment on what I’m buying, which I’m not. At least the Cali’s have got that for them.

Seems to be lots of old stock and SOR out there which doesn’t reflect the current market and makes it a bit of a mindfield as a buyer.
Advertise the GS on this forum and then get a great discount on your next car.
 

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Well it appears to be at the bottom end of modern Ferrari ownership, and a front engined Ferrari has always traditionally been a V12.
 

iainw

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Looking at ferrari prices and mileages etc, I think the California is a relatively safe bet. The prices haven't been too unstable and look great value at the moment. Their advantage I believe is what petrol-heads perceive to be their disadvantage.... They appeal to a bigger market, prices are more affordable and upkeep would be less. Front engined V12 Ferraris are a different league of maintenance costs, potential headache and practicality. Apples and Pears.

They are fantastic VFM at the moment, and as long as you buy right, it would be less painful than buying a brand new German wagon.
 

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Do you think?
Do you think it will be a stone around ones neck when they come to sell it?

I don't think any modern Ferrari will be the new Mondial. They are simply much better made and useable than the old days where the good ones were great and the average one were average with nothing in between. They are all now very good. I think a Cali at £75-80k is a fairly safe bet if you assume that it could drop to between 60 and 70k over the next 3 years. That's cheap motoring for a Fezza really. My argument on the Cali T is that although it's about 100-105k minimum, it's far better in every department except noise and most are still well inside the 7 year service pack so running costs could actually be considerably less. If you assume the same depreciation of 15k and add the service savings and power warranty for 2 years from a main dealer, the savings on running cost could easily be £10k over 3 services plus the security of a warranty. So now the real difference between the two is 10-15k and for me, the T is worth that premium in many ways. The final nail would be that in 3 years you're trading in a T to the main dealers against a Portofino and not trading in an older standard Cali. You're getting more for the T because they can still retail it. So you could even recover the difference in a higher trade in down the line. Yes, you may not but you definitely won't with a Cali.

I do like the Cali - except the silly exhaust which they fixed on the T - but I don't think that the cheapest here actually represents the best mid term value.
 

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This car, for example, you would get off them for 100k, i'm confident of that. It's a 64 plate so will have 2 or 3 services left of the pack and a 2 year warranty. There are 52 Cali T for sale at main dealers and 15 standard California. This is because the older car is now getting too high mileage and not enough margin to prep and warranty to main dealer standard. That will only get worse over the next years and there will be less and less Cali in the network. The T still has some way to get to that stage.

https://preowned.ferrari.com/en/gb/...lifornia_metallic-Maranello_Sales_Ltd-RE64EVB
 

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This car, for example, you would get off them for 100k, i'm confident of that. It's a 64 plate so will have 2 or 3 services left of the pack and a 2 year warranty. There are 52 Cali T for sale at main dealers and 15 standard California. This is because the older car is now getting too high mileage and not enough margin to prep and warranty to main dealer standard. That will only get worse over the next years and there will be less and less Cali in the network. The T still has some way to get to that stage.

https://preowned.ferrari.com/en/gb/...lifornia_metallic-Maranello_Sales_Ltd-RE64EVB
I do like that, but no doubt i'g get 20p for the GS....
 

iainw

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I don't think any modern Ferrari will be the new Mondial. They are simply much better made and useable than the old days where the good ones were great and the average one were average with nothing in between. They are all now very good. I think a Cali at £75-80k is a fairly safe bet if you assume that it could drop to between 60 and 70k over the next 3 years. That's cheap motoring for a Fezza really. My argument on the Cali T is that although it's about 100-105k minimum, it's far better in every department except noise and most are still well inside the 7 year service pack so running costs could actually be considerably less. If you assume the same depreciation of 15k and add the service savings and power warranty for 2 years from a main dealer, the savings on running cost could easily be £10k over 3 services plus the security of a warranty. So now the real difference between the two is 10-15k and for me, the T is worth that premium in many ways. The final nail would be that in 3 years you're trading in a T to the main dealers against a Portofino and not trading in an older standard Cali. You're getting more for the T because they can still retail it. So you could even recover the difference in a higher trade in down the line. Yes, you may not but you definitely won't with a Cali.

I do like the Cali - except the silly exhaust which they fixed on the T - but I don't think that the cheapest here actually represents the best mid term value.
Agree with you Athol.
Saw a black FF today buzzing around the Mumbles- and thought of you. Looked flipping fantastic. Are you still enjoying? Remind me to take you (at a cost!) when I negotiate my next Ferrari purchase!
 

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I don't think any modern Ferrari will be the new Mondial. They are simply much better made and useable than the old days where the good ones were great and the average one were average with nothing in between. They are all now very good. I think a Cali at £75-80k is a fairly safe bet if you assume that it could drop to between 60 and 70k over the next 3 years. That's cheap motoring for a Fezza really. My argument on the Cali T is that although it's about 100-105k minimum, it's far better in every department except noise and most are still well inside the 7 year service pack so running costs could actually be considerably less. If you assume the same depreciation of 15k and add the service savings and power warranty for 2 years from a main dealer, the savings on running cost could easily be £10k over 3 services plus the security of a warranty. So now the real difference between the two is 10-15k and for me, the T is worth that premium in many ways. The final nail would be that in 3 years you're trading in a T to the main dealers against a Portofino and not trading in an older standard Cali. You're getting more for the T because they can still retail it. So you could even recover the difference in a higher trade in down the line. Yes, you may not but you definitely won't with a Cali.

I do like the Cali - except the silly exhaust which they fixed on the T - but I don't think that the cheapest here actually represents the best mid term value.

Mate, your man maths calculator is the dog's bollox, it really is. Well done!
 

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Agree with you Athol.
Saw a black FF today buzzing around the Mumbles- and thought of you. Looked flipping fantastic. Are you still enjoying? Remind me to take you (at a cost!) when I negotiate my next Ferrari purchase!

It’s epic and has been made more so by yesterday’s install of a novitec Rosso exhaust, my birthday present to myself. Watch this video to get an idea of how old skool f1 car it now sounds!

 

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It’s epic and has been made more so by yesterday’s install of a novitec Rosso exhaust, my birthday present to myself. Watch this video to get an idea of how old skool f1 car it now sounds!


Oh my, I think I've just had a 'moment'. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: