Fiat Panda 4x4 - For Sale

philw696

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Completely agree, on most of not all cars, all traction control works by cutting the power and applying the brakes or something like that, so cars get bogged down in the snow very quickly.
First thing I do with my Jag if there is snow is turn it off, and that means completely off (holding button for 9secs until it bleeps) taught my kids and wife the same thing.
Don't need to mess about like that in my Renault 4 just have the heater on hot ;)
 

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As much as I quite like the R4, I have just done a 450 mile round trip in the XJ today, in the R4 that would have been a two day trip ;)
There's a lot to be said for a tinny car round town/short trips. But for longer journeys, a quality car means you arrive fresh.
That and the illusion of speed, Mrs MLC, was scared doing 40 in the Suzuki but quite happy, and oblivious, by doing a ton in the GT (she only realised when i told her!)
 

philw696

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There's a lot to be said for a tinny car round town/short trips. But for longer journeys, a quality car means you arrive fresh.
That and the illusion of speed, Mrs MLC, was scared doing 40 in the Suzuki but quite happy, and oblivious, by doing a ton in the GT (she only realised when i told her!)
Totally agree Martin but there is also quite exciting about pushing something small and basic to the limit too as is surprises you of its capabilities.
Unless I'm just deviant ?
 

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Back in the day I had a 205 1.8 XLD, company car, with all of 58BHP. When wound up it wasn't bad but the acceleration was that of a snail with a 10 storey apartment block on it's back. The art was building the speed and keeping it, fortunately the 205 chassis and a bit of bravery allowed you to throw it at corners at silly speeds, it went everywhere flat out.
 
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Back in the day I had a 205 1.8 XLD, company car, with all of 58BHP. When wound up it wasn't bad but the acceleration was that of a snail with a 10 storey apartment block on it's back. The art was building the speed and keeping it, fortunately the 205 chassis and a bit of bravery allowed you to throw it at corners at silly speeds, it went everywhere flat out.

Mine was 954cc and 4 speed.
 

zagatoes30

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Got to £6,300 but didn't reach reserve, I think that was a reasonable, if top end, price obviously current owner has higher expectations
 

zagatoes30

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The 1979 BMW 730 I was watching reached £9,600 which once again I would have thought reasonable but it too didn't reach its reserve. Maybe the market is calling and these modern classics will fall back from some of the silly prices they were achieving during lockdown. Current owners / dealers might need to adjust their expectations but this is January when sales are always so slow so will watch prices as we move into Spring & Summer