Ghibli Hybrid Coming Soon

Devonboy

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Well that was 30 mins of my life I ain't getting back.

Long on adjectives, short on tech specs, so cant really form an opinion.

Claimed to be a live event - it wasnt - it was all pre-recorded
 
P R

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You mean plug in hybrid too? The bloke mentioned it would be too heavy and lose the handling if they did that..
 
Tilum

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Oneball said:
Anybody else think that yet again Maserati have fluffed it and produced something nobody wants. I was expecting a proper hybrid.
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I was hoping for a PHEV as well. So a mild hybrid only, with a 4 cylinder engine, and is basically the same as the current Ghibli (body-wise etc.) - disappointing to say the least!!!
The 'live' event was excruciating to watch - everything was so fake! Plus having previously met and spoken with JWW, whilst not being 'anti-Maserati', he's certainly not a "Maserati fan"!
 
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I suppose this was all they could do working with the existing platform. There was talk of it being a PHEV, which for anyone living near London, or soon Birmingham and a host of other UK city's, a way of avoiding the ever more expensive congestion charges - in London £15.00 per day now virtually 24/7.
The new, yet to be released, DS9 which although just a Peugeot 508 in disguise offers a very stylish PHEV alternative to the German exec saloons, which for me was the reason I bought the Ghibli. The DS brand has yet to gain premium credibility, Maserati seem, probably owing to lack of budget, to be stretching their badge credibility a little bit too far. I think, and according to reports, this hybrid drive train is intended to be a stop gap until an all new saloon to replace both the Ghibli and QP appears around 2025. As it stands as an owner for five years of the existing diesel, I'm not sure this is enough to want me to switch my current car, which I remain very pleased with.
 
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keith said:
I suppose this was all they could do working with the existing platform. There was talk of it being a PHEV, which for anyone living near London, or soon Birmingham and a host of other UK city's, a way of avoiding the ever more expensive congestion charges - in London £15.00 per day now virtually 24/7.
The new, yet to be released, DS9 which although just a Peugeot 508 in disguise offers a very stylish PHEV alternative to the German exec saloons, which for me was the reason I bought the Ghibli. The DS brand has yet to gain premium credibility, Maserati seem, probably owing to lack of budget, to be stretching their badge credibility a little bit too far. I think, and according to reports, this hybrid drive train is intended to be a stop gap until an all new saloon to replace both the Ghibli and QP appears around 2025. As it stands as an owner for five years of the existing diesel, I'm not sure this is enough to want me to switch my current car, which I remain very pleased with.
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Interesting point about the DS9.. I haven't ever looked at them so I dont know much about them, however I would expect the platform and running gear to be available to FCA / Maserati after the merger..
 
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Tilum said:
(Having already seen it), why anyone would want to waste their time watching it is beyond me!
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I am interested in Maserati, technology, and future marque potential. I am not interested in arty farty graphics, silly soundtracks, and dubious commentary; it was hard work and I gave up on it.

Give me Harry's garage any day.

PH
 
makeshiftUK

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I logged on in anticipation earlier today... and I have one word to describe the launch event. And that word is... anticlimax.
 
keith

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P R said:
Interesting point about the DS9.. I haven't ever looked at them so I dont know much about them, however I would expect the platform and running gear to be available to FCA / Maserati after the merger..
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P R said:
Interesting point about the DS9.. I haven't ever looked at them so I dont know much about them, however I would expect the platform and running gear to be available to FCA / Maserati after the merger..
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You make a good point about the existing PSA platform. It would make financial sense to use the platform and possibly the drivetrain to form the basis of the all new Maserati saloon. As it is, this new DS9 that I mention, has in top of the range form a 1600 petrol and electric motor set up which I think develops 350 bhp with 30 miles of electric only running. Misgivings about the badge (unfortunately that's the snob in me!), and customer service, of which I have direct experience as a current owner of the 3door DS3 for a couple of years now; this new DS9 model is a very stylish car both inside and out, with all the latest tech, and a refreshingly individual flair to in theory at least rival Mercedes or BMW.
Whilst big French saloons have historically struggled badly for credibility and as a result resale values in the premium sector, this latest effort is their best attempt yet. It will be interesting to see if it can elevate 'DS Automobiles' into the true premium brand that PSA is so desperate for it to become. How's that for going completely off topic!!
 
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CatmanV2 said:
And how was that?

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We had a Twin-air MiTo for a couple of years. It was ... economic.

Gutless is the word that immediately springs to mind. It needs to be kept in Dynamic (Sport) mode to get any kind of feel. Did drive it down to Beaulieu once, it struggled in normal going up the hills on the A34 south of Newbury. It wasn't that bad in D on back roads. It has been replaced by 4-pot 170hp version. Much more like it.

keith said:
I think, and according to reports, this hybrid drive train is intended to be a stop gap until an all new saloon to replace both the Ghibli and QP appears around 2025. As it stands as an owner for five years of the existing diesel, I'm not sure this is enough to want me to switch my current car, which I remain very pleased with.
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This is exactly what it is. A stop-gap until the new Ghibli is ready, probably built on the Giorgio platform which, IIRC, was designed with electrification in mind. Expect to see the 4 cylinder being the default engine for this end of the market though. Its not about appealing to die-hard Maserati enthusiasts, its about making money against the German luxury brands. Let's face it most of you with old V8s aren't going to buy a new Maserati anyway regardless of the engine in it. There will always be something wrong with it or, for most people, it'll be too expensive.

Price wise it drops in at the same price point as the diesel, should deliver similar economy but with the performance of the base petrol.
 
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