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rockits said:
I'd be less hung up on the FD DBW module to be honest. Many don't have it and IMHO it doesn't need it. The GS is fine as it is.

Echo everything everyone has said to date in that the difference in upfront cost between a good and bad one is much less than the quickly realised cost if a bad one needs lots of cash spending. It can be errorded quite quickly even neutralised if not reversed sometimes if you get unlucky.
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Not much performance modded Maserati's in the uk at all?. LHD market is full of some nice ones like a Novitec supercharger fitted to a Mc Stradale making 600hp. I am thinking of doing the Novitec ecu Tune on my QP6 GTS after its next service. The cost is only 3k and I get 605hp and 820nm torque.
 
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I think you list a lot of red lines in your requirements with a budget that does not align. The GS was only made for a four year period. Estimates are that there are perhaps 200 GS cars in this country. So not in great abundance. The usual rule applies - there are cheap within-budget examples, but unlikely to tick your boxes.

Have a chat with Richard Grace if he can source an example and the sort of budget you are likely to need.
 
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maserati_mcstradale said:
Not much performance modded Maserati's in the uk at all?. LHD market is full of some nice ones like a Novitec supercharger fitted to a Mc Stradale making 600hp. I am thinking of doing the Novitec ecu Tune on my QP6 GTS after its next service. The cost is only 3k and I get 605hp and 820nm torque.
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People here in the UK don’t see the point in adding more power to a car like a QP GTS. It’s plenty powerful already, and adding more doesn’t make it any better as a drivers car (arguably worse, if you don’t change the suspension and brakes to cope at the same time). Someone wanting that much power and a sportier drive would buy a different car in the first place. The QP is all about wafting in style and comfort, with plenty of leg room for the owner sitting in the back.

It would be interesting to ask Novitec how many QP GTS they have converted. Can’t be many.
 
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cheshiremaserati said:
I think you list a lot of red lines in your requirements with a budget that does not align. The GS was only made for a four year period. Estimates are that there are perhaps 200 GS cars in this country. So not in great abundance. The usual rule applies - there are cheap within-budget examples, but unlikely to tick your boxes.

Have a chat with Richard Grace if he can source an example and the sort of budget you are likely to need.
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Thanks for your insight, I think I am pretty good with my budget however. There will always be a difference of opinion from buyers and uncomfortable owners, especially during a market adjustment period like now.
 
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Unfortunately that Blue car is not going to work out, so still on the lookout. Please let me know if you are selling a good car with no serious issues please.
 
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@Mavster - I’ve just re- read my comments and those of others, and was reflecting on how they are almost identical to the reaction I got when I first joined the forum 3 yrs ago looking for my first Maserati.

At the time I wanted a Granturismo S with less than 40k miles, I wanted the MC Shift, I had a long list of things I wanted in terms of options, and I had a budget of £45k. I ended up buying a Granturismo which didn’t have half the stuff I had originally listed (including a different gearbox!) through Richard Grace for slightly more than £45k ... and I’m really glad I did as it was an immaculate, fabulous car.

Reason for recounting the story is that, given the market adjustment, I reckon you will almost certainly be able to buy a Gransport for under £20k. You might even be able to get one with under 50k miles (as for lots of owners these are weekend cars and don’t get used as a daily). However, I definitely don't think that £20k is going to buy you the best example out there, and I suspect that at that kind of price point it’s likely to be either a private sale, or from a dealer who’s taken something in part ex where the warranty is worth diddly squat... As such, if you’re looking for something to cherish and to keep for a few years, then given the potential running costs of a car that has not been maintained perfectly, it’s definitely worth thinking about whether there’s scope to increase the budget a smidge.

Clearly, if there’s not scope to raise the budget, then you buy the best example you can find for the money...

I would also suggest you test drive as many as possible, and depending on where you’re based in the country you might want to come along to one or more of the SM meets?
 
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Ewan said:
People here in the UK don’t see the point in adding more power to a car like a QP GTS. It’s plenty powerful already, and adding more doesn’t make it any better as a drivers car (arguably worse, if you don’t change the suspension and brakes to cope at the same time). Someone wanting that much power and a sportier drive would buy a different car in the first place. The QP is all about wafting in style and comfort, with plenty of leg room for the owner sitting in the back.

It would be interesting to ask Novitec how many QP GTS they have converted. Can’t be many.
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Evan the QP6 GTS is a GT63 AMG/ m5/m6/panamera competitor but more exotic/special. Its 100lbs lighter a m5/m6. Then if you look at fastlaps its a very capable car beating the mc stradale in straightline speed and almost the same time on the track only a few 100 milliseconds behind. Novitec ECU tune is not a massive increase only 75hp more and 110nm torque more, the stock car will easily handle that small amount. The QP has style, speed and comfort. Its a fantastic all rounder. https://en.comparis.ch/carfinder/marktplatz/details/show/25483531 This guy in Switzerland has done the tune and has a done a 112,000kms which is a very high milage, which gives me confidence if I do try it after my service.
 
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I agree with Ewan regards modding and Maseratis. If you want the fastest car out there, buy a Nissan or a Tesla. What sort of money would you need to spend at Novitec tuning a QP GTS, invalidating warranty, alienating future buyers, to gain some more BHP that would have no effect in the real world? The car is already too quick for UK roads.
 
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Mavster said:
Thanks for your insight, I think I am pretty good with my budget however. There will always be a difference of opinion from buyers and uncomfortable owners, especially during a market adjustment period like now.
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You will get a GS for £20k. Just wont meet your red lines and stated requirements. Test driving a number of cars is almost a non-starter given how few good examples there are and likely involving a tour of the United Kingdom by moonlight. Word of mouth referrals of good examples do not begin at £20k, but I can only wish you luck in finding your specified GS with a £20k budget. What is in no doubt is that you will be able to buy a GS within your budget -but a tall order to meet your red lines.
 
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dickygrace said:
I agree with Ewan regards modding and Maseratis. If you want the fastest car out there, buy a Nissan or a Tesla. What sort of money would you need to spend at Novitec tuning a QP GTS, invalidating warranty, alienating future buyers, to gain some more BHP that would have no effect in the real world? The car is already too quick for UK roads.
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Richard sorry but I was talking about the QP6 GTS, its just a ECU tune for 3k from Novitec. Since this car is a twin turbo v8.
 
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Spend £25k on a Gransport . A £20k one will be a sh1t heap . Or spend £18k on a perfect 4200 Facelift. A cheap GS will cost you more than £25k in the long run .
 
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I think the key is a good inspection to help weed out the dogs, as I am sure there is probably neglected examples advertised at £25k+ plus also...I am not fixed on £20k if mileage, condition, spec and provenance/history can justify
 
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dickygrace said:
Yes I’m aware of what you were talking about, I’ve had one. Pointless spending £3000 in my opinion.
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Spot-on! £3k for a remap, negligible benefit over and above the car's standard capabilities. Total waste of money and invalidates any warranty. These are not all-out speed beasts. If you want that, then buy a Porsche Turbo or Turbo S with PDK (dual clutch) box if you are man enough to handle close to 600bhp without embracing the first lamp post. The GS I have is plenty fast. But when I switch to the Turbo it is like a bullet with just such quick effortless torque that propels it to warp speed in the blink of an eye - not that the GS is slow but that the Turbo is quicker and that all-time 4 wheel drive gives phenomenal grip enabling it to put down 450bhp effortlessly. I keep both cars because I like them both but in very different ways.
 
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