Granturismo (GT model) prices.....from around the globe.....

Parisien

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Just gleaning a few figures .......maybe those in other countries can fill in the gaps.....also if you can quote a ball park figure for annual and major services ( in USD if possible!)

Australia - approx $ 280,000

Korea - $ 240,000

Hong Kong - $200,000

Germany - $190,000

Japan - $160,000

Saudi Arabia - $160,000 ( fully loaded!)

USA - GT-S model $135,000


So in the UK, we don't do badly at all!!


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GTS 08

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33% luxury car tax in Australia.

GTS is about 350 k - 360k !

more with full set of goodies
 

conaero

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33% luxury car tax in Australia.

GTS is about 350 k - 360k !

more with full set of goodies

Yes, our poor old Austrailian buddies certainly get a raw deal. Does anyone know the reasons behind it, is is just a tax on showing off, forcing Aussies to buy home made cars, or what?
 

Parisien

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Yes, our poor old Austrailian buddies certainly get a raw deal. Does anyone know the reasons behind it, is is just a tax on showing off, forcing Aussies to buy home made cars, or what?

Not disimilar to the Republic of Ireland...they slap on a huge tax on all cars, pro rata to their original base import value, making them 50% dearer than exactly the same UK sold cars....it is purely a tax, ie the state makes back nearly the same amount in tax as the car maker gets( plus VAT at 20 something per cent)!

No Maserati dealer in the RoI.....but I do know in the list of most expensive cars sold, Maserati were the most expensive......but I am not sure what model they were talking about!


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bigbob

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Its one of the reasons I would not live in Australia/NZ. Huge import taxes to protect domestic industries is so 1970s. I would try and live with a V8 Holden but I hear that speed traps are more pretty common.
 

GTS 08

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dont start me.

it makes no sense at all.

stems from the early Hawke / Keating fiasco.

yes - there are speed traps everywhere - particularly in the country.

I once got busted going down to bunbury (2.5hrs hours from perth) and on the way back - twice in one day.
 

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On the flip side, the local Maserati Club seems quite active in organising regular track events (according to their website).
 

GTS 08

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true andyk - but it wasnt in a masa!

they get you as you come into country towns where the limit drops from 110 or 120 km.

and just as you come out.

I have a mate who had a fez - older guy - older fez - and they threw him the cells while they processed him and then talked about the car for an hour!

since that time - they now confiscate the car if the speed is too high.

BF - that fellow also had a masa and yes he was in the masa club and reported it was good.
 

Parisien

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And the European prize goes to.............................

Drum roll...............tat...tat.............tat...tat....tat......


http://www.cbg.ie/Car_Detail.aspx?ID=3094013

They reckon new....its all of 196,000 Euros !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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PS Its only lost 71,000 Euros in 2 years and done 5,000 miles !!!!!!!!!!
 
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Emtee

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Blood and sand Parisien, makes your eyes water! And in terms of tax revenues? - this'll add up to nine-tenths of bugger-all in the scheme of things. Whatever happened to good ol'fashioned entrepreneurialism? Last time I checked we lived in a social democracy (not yellow, though I probably need to check that on a daily basis for the next few weeks!) where the opportunity of wealth creation was both personally and generally to be encouraged. One day someone will realize that unbridled taxation doesn't work; never did, never will.
 

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Welcome to the Nanny State sorry I mean country.

I have been back in Australia for just over a year now and its all very worrying. Our current PM affectionately known as the Fairy Ruddfather is a bit like a modern day Robin hood except he steals from pretty much anybody who earns more than 20K a year and spends it on schools, roads and bungled eco schemes. Australia has been prosperous for a long time now so the gov't is raking in tax - you get taxed on everything here. Buy a starter home or a 1 bed inner city flat for $350,000 and you will pay $15,000 (4.3%) in stamp duty move up to an average suburban house in Melbourne for $700,000 and you will be up for $38,500 (5.5%). A new BMW320i will set you back about $60,000 and you will be up for another $3000 to put it on the road almost as bad if you buy used. We are one of the highest income taxed countries in the world, it has come down in recent years but that was offset by a goods and services tax introduced 10 years ago at 10%. I think the tax on fuel represents more than half of the pump value on cigarettes its something like 80%, Alcohol 50%, liquor licensing fees are doubling this year, as mentioned earlier 33% luxury car tax in addition to GST which is also payable on transport costs associated with importation. 40% Capital gains tax if you happen to make a profit in selling property, shares or a business. You get an extra tax if you earn over the average wage (I think $70K) and don't have private health insurance, not too mention compulsory pension payments rising to 12%. Business has it even worse with workers compensation, payroll tax and even taxes paid in advance for small to medium businesses (so if you go broke they already have your tax). The current issue is a super profits tax on mining companies, apparently they earn too much so the gov't wants some action and will take 40% so it can fund more money in health care and pensions so that they will get re-elected. The gov't obviously feel that we do not know how best to spend our money so they figure the best solution is to take it all off us and they will decide where it gets spent. They are raking in so much money that the $40Bn deficit we went into during the GFC will be paid back in 3 years, well as long as China or our rather inflated property market doesn't crash.

But we are talking about cars. I have no explanation of why the used car market is so high here. Obviously led from new car sales, I have looked around for explanations and there seem to be none. Even cars that are under the luxury car tax thresh hold seem to hold a high value on the used car market. Its very annoying. I was about to buy a Masser in the UK when I decided to leave and there is little chance of owning one here. Though with the current exchange rate importing has become more of an option but you will pay more than the cars value in fees and charges by the time its on the road here.

The money the government makes from speed camera's is obscene and the fines are going up again. The cameras are everywhere, hidden and mobile we even have combined speed and red light camera's on intersections here so if you speed up to get through on the amber you get pinged. There are so many cameras (they are in cars parked on the side of the road) that it had to be outsourced to a private company because it was using too many police resources. I have had 3 fines in the year I have been back and I am driving a a 1991 Mitsubishi Lancer. The closest I got to a fine in the UK was doing 100mph on a motorway and being waved at to slow down by a cop. That would have been a 6 month loss of license a 600 quid fine and I would have lost my car if that were here. What is speeding here well you get a 4km/h (2.5mph) lea way so in a 60km/h (37.5mph) zone you won't get booked until you are doing a whooping 64km/h (40mph). That will cost you $133 and 1 demerit point (if you get more than 12points in a 3 year period you lose your license for 3 months). If you should hit 73km/h $200 and 3 points, same for a red light and not wearing your seat belt. 80km $333 4 points, 90km $466 6 points and over 100km forget about it, $933 8 points 6 month immediate loss of license and your car is impounded under the new Hoon rules which Lewis ran fowl of over here during the F1 GP by doing a burnout and lost his loaned Merc to boot. This prompted Webber to start the whole Nanny state thing. He was forced to apologise whilst here but he has been pretty vocal about the Nanny country in the last week.

Man that makes me feel better, rant over. If you managed to read all this I applaud you.

Anyway best get back to paying my taxes and spending more time looking at my speedo than the road. Have all these rules and fines reduced the road toll? No not really despite cars being about 5 times safer than they were 20 years ago when they started all this camera BS.

Howie
 

safrane

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Never did see the appeal of moving to Auz...too many things that can kill you like spiders, fish, local wild life...but having read your post the tax would put me off even more!
 

bigbob

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Ditto. You'd think the Aussie government would realise that high import taxes on cars and speed cameras everywhere must put off high net worths from wanting to move down under. The whole Lewis Hamilton thing in his Merc made Australia look silly, especially so when Mark Webber said that the driving laws were draconian.
 

howie

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I think about coming back everyday. Even though the good economy here and unreal exchange rate means that for the first time ever I can earn a lot more here than there and the jpb market is probably harder there than here its easily offset with tax, fines and car prices!! Compared to car prices here I could justify having an e46 M3 Convertable as my daily drive and a 3200GT for the weekend in the UK. Though the petrol might send me broke.

Price update there is a 2010 GTS for sale here at the moment, wait for it:
$AUS359,000
EUR253,000
GBP217,000

Not much you couldn't get for that in the UK!!
 
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Parisien

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Utterly crazy Howie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An abuse of the ordinary tax payer, sure drink driving should be hammered, plus very excessive speeders........but robbing potential buyers of our cars..........immoral and horrific!


My sympathy to all Australian Maseratisti!!!

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PS Wheres my hankie...have come over all emotional.....:(