Hope for ICE?

[Koz]

Came across this.

Synthetic fuelled cars as clean as electric cars, says Porsche | Evo

Porsche claims a car running on eFuel will have the same CO2 footprint as an EV

www.evo.co.uk

 

[FIFTY]

Yup. F1 is switching to E10 in 2022 and they will continue to drive R&D into synthetic fuels

 

[bigbob]

Seems like a nice solution for big engined weekend cars. There will still be zero tailpipe emissions zones in all towns and cities though IMHO. I wonder if you will be able to apply for a licence to buy, say, 1000 litres of this stuff a year?

 

[Swedish Paul]

So what are synthetic fuels made of?

 

[CatmanV2]

So what are synthetic fuels made of?

Biology.

C

 

[sionie1]

Synthetic fuels made from old...... I'll get my coat...

 

[Wanderer]

Would the current engines need modding to use it though?

 

[hashluck]

Would the current engines need modding to use it though?

Supposedly not

 

[Swedish Paul]

Biology.

C

Biology implies needing to grow something doesn’t it? If so, how can we justify turning over farmland for fuel when we can’t even grow enough to feed ourselves?

 

[safrane]

Porsche breaks ground on new CO2-neutral fuel plant in Chile | Auto Express

Porsche plans to use the synthetic fuel in its motorsport pursuits from 2022, and will expand production to 550 million litres a year by 2026

www.google.com

 

[CatmanV2]

Biology implies needing to grow something doesn’t it? If so, how can we justify turning over farmland for fuel when we can’t even grow enough to feed ourselves?

We can and easily do grow enough to feed ourselves. People don't starve because there isn't enough food. Or do you mean only in England?

But there are non-food crops which will grow where food crops won't and bacteria that grow in tanks....


C

 

[Swedish Paul]

We can and easily do grow enough to feed ourselves. People don't starve because there isn't enough food. Or do you mean only in England?

But there are non-food crops which will grow where food crops won't and bacteria that grow in tanks....


C

Well it will be interesting if it works with existing engines. I’ll presume you wouldn’t want to live downwind of the manufacturing plant...

 

[CatmanV2]

Well it will be interesting if it works with existing engines. I’ll presume you wouldn’t want to live downwind of the manufacturing plant...

Most of them produce very little in terms of off gas apart from, maybe CO2. Which is the same Carbon which was captured to create the biomass.

C

 

[Navcorr]

Well it will be interesting if it works with existing engines.

Porsche will employ Mobil tech. under license. Which was patented and more or less parked on a shelf in the mid 80s. Viable operations have used MTG previously though. Expect more to do so as political climate dictates.

 

[Gazcw]

Biology implies needing to grow something doesn’t it? If so, how can we justify turning over farmland for fuel when we can’t even grow enough to feed ourselves?

Good point. We could chop the rain forest down though.... I haven't thought this through have I!

 

[CatmanV2]

Good point. We could chop the rain forest down though.... I haven't thought this through have I!

You haven't thought it all the way through, no

C

 

[rossyl]

KLM / Shell have already run a commercial flight using purely sustainable fuel

KLM Makes First Regular Flight With Sustainable Synthetic Fuel

Air France-KLM’s Dutch arm operated a passenger flight from Amsterdam to Madrid that the carrier says was the first in the world to use sustainably derived synthetic aviation fuel.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Lozzer]

Surprised it's taken this long for something like this to appear, synthetic oils have been around ages after all

 

[alfatwo]

So does this new fuel mean you still get over 100bhp per litre in our old masers!

Dave

 

[Sam McGoo]

I like the sound of this as a viable option for the ICE.