karatemaserati
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When buying?? As above really.
How much percentage wise should you pay more from a dealer than private...
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GeoffCapes
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The cost of major servicing and a warranty?
mjheathcote
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15-20% I'd say
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Very hard to say, as much depends on whether it's main dealer, independent, what you actually get and their reputation.
Whether a fresh service (to oem spec) is included (some garages will just do an oil change) , but more importantly whether your getting just a standard 3 month warranty or an all singing all inclusive 12mth one with a reputable company.
You pretty much have to get quotes for all the above, then compare that to the cost of an equivalent private sale adding either the cost of a very good warranty or all the potential costs of servicing and known faults and weigh it up.
I always compare a few cars and their potential costs on a spreadsheet.
Also depends if your the kind of person that doesn't want any hassle at all in your first year of ownership, or doesn't mind getting things sorted yourself as and when.
Whether a fresh service (to oem spec) is included (some garages will just do an oil change) , but more importantly whether your getting just a standard 3 month warranty or an all singing all inclusive 12mth one with a reputable company.
You pretty much have to get quotes for all the above, then compare that to the cost of an equivalent private sale adding either the cost of a very good warranty or all the potential costs of servicing and known faults and weigh it up.
I always compare a few cars and their potential costs on a spreadsheet.
Also depends if your the kind of person that doesn't want any hassle at all in your first year of ownership, or doesn't mind getting things sorted yourself as and when.
karatemaserati
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Think iv answered my own question... after a look on parkers 10 percent roughly is the difference between private good and dealer good.
So with being cat D I think 38k would be a good starting point but def not more than 40 for this face lift db9 iv got my eye on
So with being cat D I think 38k would be a good starting point but def not more than 40 for this face lift db9 iv got my eye on
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Incredibly difficult to quantify. In order for this to be measurable you’d need 2 identical cars to be for sale. They would have to be the same spec, mileage, condition and similar location. It would also depend on the age of the cars as to whether warranty came into play. You have to decide if the saving you’re going to potentially make by buying privately is one worth the risk.
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You just posted as I was typing, there is unlikely to be a comparable car. In my opinion; thankfully so. A white Cat D DB9 with a red interior for sale in Bradford!!
karatemaserati
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So comparable 12-13 face-lift with similar milage start at about 58k
The red is my only real gripe.
No problem with it being cat d... what are we saying that should be off normal price 25%??
I think db9's look ace in white
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Yes 25% off, so it’s priced perfectly. It’s not really a car than can be comparatively valued, so it’s worth what someone is prepared to pay, bearing in mind there will be few buyers about.
karatemaserati
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Is it not?? There's 3 on auto trader, similar milage and age from 55-59k from dealers so let's say 58k...
-10% for being private
-25 % for being cat D
= 38-40k
Or am I missing something?
-10% for being private
-25 % for being cat D
= 38-40k
Or am I missing something?
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I just took off 25% for being Cat D. Few dealers would sell a Cat D car so I didn’t adjust 10% for private also.
In many cases it is not a percentage but a given amount of cash simply reverse engineered to allow them to stay in business and earn a living. I also believe it varies between brand and type of car. A Ferrari or McLaren are very high but I'm always surprised by how low a margin BMW dealers take on used M cars. You can easily lose two extra years of depreciation in dealer margin so the best way to minimise costs is to keep your car longer.
I wouldn’t bother with cat D unless you plan to keep it very long term such that you won’t be bothered by resale concerns. It’s not just that cat D cars command a lower price, they also appeal to a very limited market so can take a long time to sell.
That red interior (chancellor red?) looks better in person than it does in a photo, and I think it goes well with the white. The passenger door colour looks off - I don’t think it’s just the light, as it’s the same in every photo angle.
That red interior (chancellor red?) looks better in person than it does in a photo, and I think it goes well with the white. The passenger door colour looks off - I don’t think it’s just the light, as it’s the same in every photo angle.
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Do you know why it was a Cat D? That would be my starting point irrelevant of the price. You'll have a car that will look the part for sure, but will always be worth less, and without some proper inspections and guarantees around the work/repair, I'd be saving a little longer and spending the additional cash to get me into a properly sorted car.