Lancia Fulvia 1800 project

rivarama

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Right, so I am looking for a little project on a car I always liked - Lancia fulvia 1800 coupe.

To be perfectly honest, I have always preferred its richer cousin, the Ferrari 250 GTE 2+2 but accepted I could never afford the £350-400k entry ticket.
I just came across this project, which will require a full restoration.

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1965 Lancia Flavia Coupe, 1800 fuel injection, SOLD SOLD

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Looks like this car passed the MOT until 2007.
I have no idea how much a half decent restoration would cost assuming all parts are there, and the body is in decent shape, even if some level of rust is expected. I don’t need everything to look like new - patina is good me.

The car is likely to require a full respray (i imagine) and engine rebuild.
i have no idea if £15-20k is even doable..I just don’t want to spend £30k of cost for a car that’s probably not worth more than £25k once done.
 
spkennyuk

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The MOT fail list from 2007 suggests it needs quite a lot of repair to the suspension mounting points both front and rear.

Ive no doubt that can be put right for a price. I would however have concerns over the Kugelfischer fuel injection system. They are quite highly strung anyway but if its been sat for 13 years with fuel in the lines then i would imagine it will need new seals and a rebuild. Possibly worth talking to saxton parts as they are one of the few companies that can work on the Kugelfischer system. Maintaining the correct pressure in the mechanical system is key to it running correctly and i cant see any of the internal seals being in great shape after 13 years of not running. They will either be hardened or perished i suspect.

Saxton i would imagine would be able to give you a worse case scenario rebuild cost to factor into your man maths on the project.

Nice car. I hope you or somebody else saves it and puts it back on the road.
 
Oneball

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Paint will be £10k assuming the bodywork isn’t too bad.
As kenny said the kuglefischer is complex and I’d budget £5k for that alone.
You need to be thinking in the region of £40k to £50k
 
philw696

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We have a Great TV program here called Vintage Mechanic and they have restored anything and everything.
They did a BMW 2002 ti that had been off the road for a long time and the injection cost a lot less than that to restore.
 
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Bodywork aside, are you doing it yourself or paying someone else to do it?
I bareshelled my Stag back in 1990, took me 2 weeks, and sent the bare shell off to a local guy who mostly restored big Healeys.
Back then, 30 years ago, it cost me approx £5k and I got a fully repaired painted shell back.
It then took me 5 years until it was back on the road doing the rest of the work myself, apart from specialist reconditioning.
To do it properly the amount of time can't be underestimated, and if I was paying someone it just wouldn't be economic to do.
For half the year in the warmer weather it was most weekends and every evening. If I said 1000 hours it would be an underestimate but at say £50 an hour that's £50k.
So I would say a minimum £70k plus car.
 
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philw696 said:
We have a Great TV program here called Vintage Mechanic and they have restored anything and everything.
They did a BMW 2002 ti that had been off the road for a long time and the injection cost a lot less than that to restore.
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Could be a lot less but they never include labour on those programmes though. An early 70s 911 fuel pump is a couple of grand. If it can’t be rebuilt I’m assuming these will be similar money.
 
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rivarama

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I just got a quote back from Saxton (that was quick).
About £2k for the pump repair/refurbishment. On top of that they do altitude control boxes and Bosch DLO20 injectors for £250-500 each (so x4 as i believe the 1.8 is a 4 cl). So we’re looking at £4K just for that... that before spray (rust treatment), suspensions, rest of engine block reconditioning etc... could add up very quickly indeed.

I can’t justify to myself spending £30k on top of the purchase price though.

Wondering if I am better off finding a version that doesn’t have injection but just a regular carburettor...

This car looks so lovely though. It deserves some TLC
 
rivarama

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mjheathcote said:
Bodywork aside, are you doing it yourself or paying someone else to do it?
I bareshelled my Stag back in 1990, took me 2 weeks, and sent the bare shell off to a local guy who mostly restored big Healeys.
Back then, 30 years ago, it cost me approx £5k and I got a fully repaired painted shell back.
It then took me 5 years until it was back on the road doing the rest of the work myself, apart from specialist reconditioning.
To do it properly the amount of time can't be underestimated, and if I was paying someone it just wouldn't be economic to do.
For half the year in the warmer weather it was most weekends and every evening. If I said 1000 hours it would be an underestimate but at say £50 an hour that's £50k.
So I would say a minimum £70k plus car.
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That’s incredibly scary - though I don’t question the math there. Sad to see that lovely cars will go to scraps as the cost of putting them back on the road isn’t economical
 
lifes2short

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it doesn't look or sound too bad actually, you just need to get the front and rear mounting points sorted if not too bad and leave that lovely bodywork with the patina, naturally if you're going give it to anyone with an open cheque book to fully restore then you could kiss good bye to a fair bit of dosh, do the minimum to get it as a running roadworthy car for the time being, do like some patina on the older classics like this
 
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