Manual Door Latch Problem

Wanderer

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Bit of a prob since I charged the battery. Doors locking went out of sync and driver door wouldn't latch. I tried with the manual button and made it worse, and button is stuck half in and continues not to latch. Same with rear drivers side door, other two fine.

I've read some possibles on the forum but none have worked, I've sprayed WD40 everywhere in the mech but it's not moving. There's a little bit of travel on both but not enough to actuate the latch. I see no way of gripping the the button to pull it out of it's half-in position.

Soft button actuates the mech but I think the stuck manual button is stopping it engaging. Central locking buttons do nothing. Can't take car to local garageman as can't engage gear with the door technically open.

I think I need some tool to grip the half-in button and pull it out, like a small G-clamp or mole-grips. In the meantime maybe the WD40 will work it's magic.

Help!
 

conaero

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The best way is to take the door card off, take the handle out and clear the dirt out, lube it and put it back.

Time consuming and tricky.

The short cut us to get a 90 deg angle pick tool and lube and work it from the underside of the manual button so you don’t see the deep scratches the pick tool will give.

It’s hit or miss the short cut will work and likely will play up again.

If it were me, bite the bullet and take the handle out and do it once.
 

conaero

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On a GT you can pull the large grommet in the door jam and disconnect the short rod to the manual release that we see gets forgotten to get reconnected by previous people.

You need to remember this is a safety feature, if you were to crash and the power cuts, you would not be able to pulled from the vehicle, worth remembering if a short cut is ultimately worth dying for?
 

BDM

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On a GT you can pull the large grommet in the door jam and disconnect the short rod to the manual release that we see gets forgotten to get reconnected by previous people.

You need to remember this is a safety feature, if you were to crash and the power cuts, you would not be able to pulled from the vehicle, worth remembering if a short cut is ultimately worth dying for?


had exactly this from a window tint the other day. Had to pull the door card and re-attach
 

conaero

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Annoying you could have done it through the large bung in the door jam but hey ho, you did it.
 

Wanderer

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Cheers, I've had the card off before so I'm used to that. I think I'll try the pick tool temp. fix first, as I also need to fix the driver window issue I've had since I got the car, goes down nicely (oo-err) but only goes up in short bursts and also an issue with the child locks not doing anything, not that I need them, no rug-rats anymore.....

QP has a large grommet in the door slam but there's only a large screw behind it. I took it off and threaded the WD40 straw to the back of the manual button on the handle and gave it a good squirt more in hope than anything.
 

keith.willey1

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I had exactly this just the other day. Forget rear door, it will work when front is sorted. You have to prise that latch out from the handle - only way to solve. I used long nosed pliers and a flat screwdriver at an angle... it actually scratched up the black latch a bit but at least didn't bodge paint or chrome. Once out works like a dream ... wd 40 sprayed all over of course (and through holes in edge of door.
I know it feels like there are other issues with electronics etc but it really is just a case of brute force on the latch
Good Luck!

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Wanderer

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I had exactly this just the other day. Forget rear door, it will work when front is sorted. You have to prise that latch out from the handle - only way to solve. I used long nosed pliers and a flat screwdriver at an angle... it actually scratched up the black latch a bit but at least didn't bodge paint or chrome. Once out works like a dream ... wd 40 sprayed all over of course (and through holes in edge of door.
I know it feels like there are other issues with electronics etc but it really is just a case of brute force on the latch
Good Luck!

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I thought about pliers but I cant see how there's enough room to grip the latch!
 

Wanderer

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Ordered up some pick tools from Amazon, arrived 2 mins ago, opened the packet, picked the underside of the latch with almost zero effort for like one nanosecond and out it popped, literally 3 mins after parcel came through letter box! Tried the rear too - same result!

Cheers everyone especially Conaero for the pick tool tip.

Injected more WD40 into the mech for now but I do need to take the card off to attend to the wonky window issue so that's next weekend most likely.
 

conaero

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Cheers, I've had the card off before so I'm used to that. I think I'll try the pick tool temp. fix first, as I also need to fix the driver window issue I've had since I got the car, goes down nicely (oo-err) but only goes up in short bursts and also an issue with the child locks not doing anything, not that I need them, no rug-rats anymore.....

QP has a large grommet in the door slam but there's only a large screw behind it. I took it off and threaded the WD40 straw to the back of the manual button on the handle and gave it a good squirt more in hope than anything.

The window fix is surprisingly simple.

It’s the anti pinch kicking in as the rubbers are dry and dragging the glass.
  1. Open the affected door
  2. Window down
  3. Spray silicone spray (3 in 1 best make) around all door channels, down the guides and wing mirror guides....basically everywhere it touches.
  4. Raise the window and spray the whole glass both sides with silicone spray and loads accross the glass where the lower scraper seal goes both sides
  5. Leave for 20 mins and let gravity do its work
  6. Raise and lower the window several times till the anti pinch stops stalling the window.
  7. Leave overnight and clean up next day
Voila...fixed!

Works on non recoiling seatbelts too.

Pull them right out, silicone spray both sides bit by bit till fully returned then fully pull out and recoil several times

Voila...fixed!
 

Wanderer

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The window fix is surprisingly simple.

It’s the anti pinch kicking in as the rubbers are dry and dragging the glass.
  1. Open the affected door
  2. Window down
  3. Spray silicone spray (3 in 1 best make) around all door channels, down the guides and wing mirror guides....basically everywhere it touches.
  4. Raise the window and spray the whole glass both sides with silicone spray and loads accross the glass where the lower scraper seal goes both sides
  5. Leave for 20 mins and let gravity do its work
  6. Raise and lower the window several times till the anti pinch stops stalling the window.
  7. Leave overnight and clean up next day
Voila...fixed!

Works on non recoiling seatbelts too.

Pull them right out, silicone spray both sides bit by bit till fully returned then fully pull out and recoil several times

Voila...fixed!
If this works I'll buy you a pint!

One thing I'm unsure about, silicone spray isn't harmful to paint is it? I don't think it is...
 

conaero

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If this works I'll buy you a pint!

One thing I'm unsure about, silicone spray isn't harmful to paint is it? I don't think it is...
Nah it’s fine. The issue with silicone on paint is if you put it in for paint it causes fish eyes.

BTW I want 5 pints!

It will fix your issue, seen it 100x
 

Wanderer

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The window fix is surprisingly simple.

It’s the anti pinch kicking in as the rubbers are dry and dragging the glass.
  1. Open the affected door
  2. Window down
  3. Spray silicone spray (3 in 1 best make) around all door channels, down the guides and wing mirror guides....basically everywhere it touches.
  4. Raise the window and spray the whole glass both sides with silicone spray and loads accross the glass where the lower scraper seal goes both sides
  5. Leave for 20 mins and let gravity do its work
  6. Raise and lower the window several times till the anti pinch stops stalling the window.
  7. Leave overnight and clean up next day
Voila...fixed!

Works on non recoiling seatbelts too.

Pull them right out, silicone spray both sides bit by bit till fully returned then fully pull out and recoil several times

Voila...fixed!
Didn't work for me - I used WD40 silicone spray, not 3 in 1, but I'll get some of that and try again.

This is what it behaves like, 100% of the time, down os fine, up is in spirts, also the initial up needs 4 or 5 pulls of the switch, it just clicks until eventually it lifts........

 

safrane

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I may be going mad, but did I read that the anti pinch is embedded in the rubber seal at the top of the window?... if correct could it be that its crushed at the too???
 

Wanderer

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I may be going mad, but did I read that the anti pinch is embedded in the rubber seal at the top of the window?... if correct could it be that its crushed at the too???
I have a spare one ready which was my original plan. Looks a bit daunting though!