Maserati parts supply

conaero

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Been noticing GranTurismo parts are getting harder of late.

Current out of stock items are wheel bearings which is a major issue.

No stock in the UK and parts suppliers have them on back order and quoting 8 weeks!
 

Sam McGoo

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Been noticing GranTurismo parts are getting harder of late.

Current out of stock items are wheel bearings which is a major issue.

No stock in the UK and parts suppliers have them on back order and quoting 8 weeks!

That's not good!
I hope it's just covid thing, and not that they gave up on the GT already!
Surely not, when they were selling them right up till last year.

I don't want to jinx it, but am one of the lucky ones that hasn't needed an ABS sensor /hub yet.... So I hope that gets sorted before I do!

Maybe it'll force some clever people like yourselves to invest in an aftermarket arrangement for something so common ;)
 

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A lot of thinks are not available due to the factory closed
On Granturismo parts not available at the moment
ABS sensors
Body panels
Bumpers
Headlights
Some engine parts no longer available

its happening the same way it happened on 3200 , 4200 & GS , QP and finally on Granturismo.

We will not be able to keep this car on the roads in the next two years the way it’s going
 

conaero

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Let’s hope it will improve. Wheel bearing is same on some Ferrari (Cali) so I would assume this is just a blip as Ferrari are much better
 

hashluck

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Let's hope it is COVID, supply-chain, August holiday in Italy, but Maserati have an appalling track record here and I fear Marios may be correct for some parts.
 

conaero

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They make a bomb on wheel bearings, buy for what $50 sell for $800, it’s been keeping the brand going for a decade :D
 

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A lot of thinks are not available due to the factory closed
On Granturismo parts not available at the moment
ABS sensors
Body panels
Bumpers
Headlights
Some engine parts no longer available

its happening the same way it happened on 3200 , 4200 & GS , QP and finally on Granturismo.

We will not be able to keep this car on the roads in the next two years the way it’s going

A new potential owner considering a Maserati, reading a comment like that, from an independent specialist like yourself, would change his mind quickly that it isn't such a good idea!
 

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Its better for people to be aware of what they are getting in to , and also for owners to realise how much time we spent every day chasing and looking for parts .
It’s a never ending story .
 

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I wondered about the wheel bearings when I needed one replacing. Is there a way of checking other car manufacturers to see who else shares a parts bin - I'd think FCA for a start? Surely Maserati and Ferrari aren't the only ones using that one part? I kept the old bearing for parts numbers etc but couldn't find anything on the web to check against, and when I researched the bearing manufacturer it got technical way too fast for me to understand.
 

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I wondered about the wheel bearings when I needed one replacing. Is there a way of checking other car manufacturers to see who else shares a parts bin - I'd think FCA for a start? Surely Maserati and Ferrari aren't the only ones using that one part? I kept the old bearing for parts numbers etc but couldn't find anything on the web to check against, and when I researched the bearing manufacturer it got technical way too fast for me to understand.

This has been looked at before, they really are unique, not a parts bin special. Where most manufacturers use a hub that has a bearing pressed into it, these wheel bearings are assembled with the inner and outer races forming part of the housing and then the hub is penned over to retain it. Cannot be rebuilt and too mad a design to be used in a mainstream car.
 
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sionie1

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This has been looked at before, they really are unique, not a parts bin special. Where most manufacturers use a hub that has a bearing pressed into it, these wheels bearing and assembled with the inner and outer races forming part of the housing and then the hub is penned over to retain it. Cannot be rebuilt and too made a design to be used in a mainstream car.
That'll explain why I disappeared down a rabbit hole trying to find out anything then..... Thanks
 

MaserMike

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I have learnt to buy and stash certain parts before they go NLA or get daft money, when restoring my old Ferrari Mondial, Testarossa - some parts are very difficult or expensive to buy. An example was the windscreen washer bottle float sensor, I bought the last one worldwide. Indicator lenses, switches etc. I’ve also been buying little things for my GranCab and Stradale just in case for the future, such as wheel centre caps, badges etc. The little things which make a difference on a nut and bolt full restore in years to come. It’s part of the fun owning a classic car hunting and searching for parts worldwide, but not great news for a >11year old car! I.e. grancab or the 6year old Stradale
 

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Cost and lead time of raw materials has increased exponentially. We have lead times on materials going from 1 month up to 12 months with a 5x to 10x price hike.

The knock on effect is that manufacturing lead times are increasing by 5x to 6x than the production lead time before COVID

Add to that the fact that Maserati/Ferrari are likely deemed not an "important client" due to their low volume orders compared to the larger auto manufacterers and it is likely that their orders will drop down the pecking order when the suppliers are trying to prioritise who gets their orders produced first
 

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Cost and lead time of raw materials has increased exponentially. We have lead times on materials going from 1 month up to 12 months with a 5x to 10x price hike.

The knock on effect is that manufacturing lead times are increasing by 5x to 6x than the production lead time before COVID

Add to that the fact that Maserati/Ferrari are likely deemed not an "important client" due to their low volume orders compared to the larger auto manufacterers and it is likely that their orders will drop down the pecking order when the suppliers are trying to prioritise who gets their orders produced first

I was going to like this, because you are right. But I don't like it, so I won't. But you are right.
 

FIFTY

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I was going to like this, because you are right. But I don't like it, so I won't. But you are right.

Yeah I'm not enjoying it either mate

I'm sure in a matter of time the resulting over supply will cause a dramatic price drop
 

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Bought my Gransport 22 months ago and love it, decided it is a keeper and been considering spending £££'s on audio,and suspension to get it to my ideal.
But this spares issue is concerning an now thinking I may go to the new Lotus if I can get one, or Alfa Quadrifolla
 

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The 4200 hub bearing is essentially the same as the GT and cheaper the issue is, with any hub, you are tied to the PCD of the wheel bolts. Maserati and Ferrari share the same PCD whereas others don’t, it’s unique.
 

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Hi Matt, sorry for being sloe, so can a 4200 wheel bearing be used on a qp v , and is the bearing interchange all four corners?
Thanks David