MC Victory vs Gransport

hilts uk

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The GS MCV was an exercise by Maserati to sell some of the remaining cars before the car came to the end of it's life......Lots do it......It's a great car but apart from the quicker steering its all cosmetic....But worth it for those seats...I'm sure they cost around 4k each if you tried to buy them off the peg and that front spoiler is many 1000's of pounds if my memory serves me right....Something like 3/4k for a replacement so don't damage it.

Eeek. £4k for a spolier, I'll keep telling myself that everytime I park
 

Andyk

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I'm sure it was something like that for a replacement...Park very carefully....
 

hodroyd

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We all are, darned things are a pain, the low chin on the GS/MCV can be prone to knocks when pulling in to parking spaces with kerbs at the front, just take care and you should be fine..!! I measured mine by getting guided in to a spot with a kerb, leaving about 4", then checking how far the nose was situated from the obstacle, it's only rough but gives you an idea..!!
 

Emtee

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Don't worry about it costing £4K (it actually costs a great deal more than that), as it's by the by - you won't be able to get one. Happy motoring :D
 

Andyk

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More than 4k...Suppose if its damage you will have to get someone to make one for you.....Take it the factory do not keep thses because of the small number made...
 

hashluck

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Holy Thread Resurrection but.....

I have just noticed that the last three digits of my engine number on the MC-Victory match the edition number of my car '157' - that could just be complete coincidence but, otherwse, could add credence to the concept of the MC-Victory engines being somehow different. Any other MC-V owners out there can check their engine number against edition number?
 
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urquattrogus

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Curiosity killed the cat....

Is there a part number for the steering rack of the MC Victory?

I was just looking on the Eurospares website. There is a different part number listed for the "Trofeo" but presume that is different again?

I think it's made by TRW.

Does anyone have any photos of the numbers on the rack?
 

Nayf

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Curiosity killed the cat....

Is there a part number for the steering rack of the MC Victory?

I was just looking on the Eurospares website. There is a different part number listed for the "Trofeo" but presume that is different again?

I think it's made by TRW.

Does anyone have any photos of the numbers on the rack?
We discussed it a while back and some 4200s and GranSports are stamped with the same part number as the MC Victory item.
I actually think there’s a lot more to the MC Victory than was allowed to be published at the time. I’ve written about them twice now - for Auto Italia and Modern Classics, with @hashluck ’s car.
The seats have a lot to do with altering the feeling of the car but the engine feels different, as does the handling - and not just the steering. Interestingly there are a lot of differing part numbers on diagrams I’ve seen.
I’ve tried asking those involved in the project and they were unwilling to go into details with a tape recorder running, largely because they now worked at the very place that demanded the GranSport be watered down in the first place. The MC Victory was what the car should have been in the first place, according to Fran Stephenson, but it would have reflected badly on the bigger brother…
 

hashluck

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We discussed it a while back and some 4200s and GranSports are stamped with the same part number as the MC Victory item.
I actually think there’s a lot more to the MC Victory than was allowed to be published at the time. I’ve written about them twice now - for Auto Italia and Modern Classics, with @hashluck ’s car.
The seats have a lot to do with altering the feeling of the car but the engine feels different, as does the handling - and not just the steering. Interestingly there are a lot of differing part numbers on diagrams I’ve seen.
I’ve tried asking those involved in the project and they were unwilling to go into details with a tape recorder running, largely becLinlause they now worked at the very place that demanded the GranSport be watered down in the first place. The MC Victory was what the car should have been in the first place, according to Fran Stephenson, but it would have reflected badly on the bigger brother…
Link to @Nayf excellent article using my car, where he managed to get what he could out of those who worked on the project, here:


Essentially you have here a car that is more than the sum of its parts irrespective of what those parts are. If you jump out of a standard Gransport into an MC-Victory then you will get it. Forum members are welcome to try mine anytime.
 

urquattrogus

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We discussed it a while back and some 4200s and GranSports are stamped with the same part number as the MC Victory item.
I actually think there’s a lot more to the MC Victory than was allowed to be published at the time. I’ve written about them twice now - for Auto Italia and Modern Classics, with @hashluck ’s car.
The seats have a lot to do with altering the feeling of the car but the engine feels different, as does the handling - and not just the steering. Interestingly there are a lot of differing part numbers on diagrams I’ve seen.
I’ve tried asking those involved in the project and they were unwilling to go into details with a tape recorder running, largely because they now worked at the very place that demanded the GranSport be watered down in the first place. The MC Victory was what the car should have been in the first place, according to Fran Stephenson, but it would have reflected badly on the bigger brother…
Brilliant - It all adds to the mystique!

I was talking to Matthew at Giallo and he said that when one came in with a broken spring it was a different spring compared to the standard GS one.

I haven't even picked my GS up yet, seems like the standard rack is relatively fast.

I changed for a quicker rack on my Z3M coupe and it was by far the best mod I ever did, went from not feeling confident in the car to like it was putty in my hands. Some of that was that the rack I fitted was not only quicker but also linear and direct in it's response, with the standard BMW rack being slower at the dead centre for straight line and high speed stability.

Love a quick rack on a car so it has already got me thinking....

Will get the geo checked on my GS first to make sure she's as she should be though :)
 

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Brilliant - It all adds to the mystique!

I was talking to Matthew at Giallo and he said that when one came in with a broken spring it was a different spring compared to the standard GS one.

I haven't even picked my GS up yet, seems like the standard rack is relatively fast.

I changed for a quicker rack on my Z3M coupe and it was by far the best mod I ever did, went from not feeling confident in the car to like it was putty in my hands. Some of that was that the rack I fitted was not only quicker but also linear and direct in it's response, with the standard BMW rack being slower at the dead centre for straight line and high speed stability.

Love a quick rack on a car so it has already got me thinking....

Will get the geo checked on my GS first to make sure she's as she should be though :)
I have only done about 300 miles in mine so far and I am enjoying the speed of the rack, it is certainly quicker than the GTS/QPV. You are correct to ensure everything is as it should be. I have used Centre of Gravity in the Midlands before and a properly set up alignment makes a huge difference. Ash at SportsItalia did this on my last QPV and it was transformational.
 

urquattrogus

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Link to @Nayf excellent article using my car, where he managed to get what he could out of those who worked on the project, here:


Essentially you have here a car that is more than the sum of its parts irrespective of what those parts are. If you jump out of a standard Gransport into an MC-Victory then you will get it. Forum members are welcome to try mine anytime.

Fabulous! It's one of those cars that "if you know, you know" how special it is :)

Also makes me yearn for Modern Classics dropping onto the door mat each month again - nothing has eclipsed it still.
 

hashluck

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Fabulous! It's one of those cars that "if you know, you know" how special it is :)
If you don't have time to read my car for sale ad, I did copy some words directly from Maserati from the MC-Victory marketing at the time, namely:

“Through an enlarged front splitter and extended side skirts, Maserati has engineered the GranSport MC-Victory to produce more downforce at high speeds, improving the car's high speed stability and dynamic response. The car's agility is further enhanced by even more direct and precise steering, creating a driving experience reminiscent of the Maserati MC12, and unmatched by any car in its own class.”

It was also documented that the Cambiocorsa (CC) F1 derived 6-speed paddle shift transmission (with electro hydraulic clutch actuation and automatic double declutching) had 35% quicker changes than the standard CC.