MC20 Personal Views

conaero

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I really would like one of these cars, the more I see the production models the more I like it.

Price, at £200k it’s too much risk. I feel they will always be worth £100k. At £150k I would buy one as am prepared to risk £50k depreciation, £100k I am not.

Colours, white, yellow and blue all look amazing

Exhaust, the sound seems to have been addressed and developed to a satisfactory level.

Interior, the appearance of leather over this blue patterned cloth is a vast improvement.

Only interested in Petrol and not interested in hybrid nor full electric.

What’s your view?
 

Andyk

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The best looking car that has come from Maserati for a long time. A great halo model and one that the company really needs to show they are still serious about building great cars. It has to be spot on though and be at least as good as the competition and from first reviews it seems to have succeeded. I think Maserati could have made a competitive car against the competition years ago but Ferrari kept them under their thumb to not embarrass the prancing horse. This shows what they can do once off the leash. I really hope this filters into the rest of the range now the GT has gone.
Price….That’s a big question. At 150k it would have had no other competition. Fully loaded Vantage could hit this price but the MC20 is in a different league. If you look at it’s true competition ….Ferrari F8 at £203k and is it’s natural competition so I can sort of see why they have pitched it there…but then the Huracan is £164k but an older car and not many go out of the showroom at that price…Most will be closer to 200k. I think if Maserati pitched it at around 175k just to undercut its rival in the prancing horse that would have been a great bit of marketing. Hybrid wouldn’t bother me and also electric as we all need to get used to electric the way things are going but at this moment I would take the combustion engine…..Either way a great car that has reignited my passion for the marque after the lacklustre models from that is currently in the range.
 

c4sman

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Great looking car and wish it every success in creating interest in the brand. I’m personally less interested in a mid engined sport/supercar at the moment (especially at £200k) and more into GT type cars so it’s not for me. Plus as it’s a Maz you won’t be able to get spare parts for it in a years time;)
 

Oneball

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If I wanted a new mid engined car the choice would be Corvette or Mas.

Not sure about the Mas colours I’ve seen so far but sure there’ll be others.

Corvette has the better interior, maybe a careful spec-ing would help.

Both actually have boots and don’t look like they’ve been driven through Halfords.

Corvette has a detachable roof, is half the price and next years Z06 is rumoured to be a 9000rpm NA V8, the only question would be what colour hibiscus to have on my Hawaiian shirt.

I think the Mas is brilliant but as you say I think they missed a trick on the price. Alfa 4c was the same.
 

Phil H

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On another thread Belfry asks about Merak values, and having watched the brand for a few decades I think the same question could be asked about the MC20 in a few years time. No matter how good the cars are they are unlikely to generate the passion of Ferrari, and passion = price (especially wrt residuals). The brand lacked support from FCA in recent years and they seemed remarkably complacent about the shrinkage of the UK dealership network, and I'm not convinced that Stellantis is committed to the long term future of Maserati; a halo car to promote the current portfolio is one thing but long term commitment to refresh a historic marque is something else, so no I wouldn't put £200k into an MC20 unless I was awash with money. £150k might be worth a punt though.
 

Chrisb2015

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Hi Matt, I am with you on this. I have spoken to a dealer in the last couple of days about one and on reflection I think the initial hit on them will be high. In the words of the dealer the most basic spec ones are coming out at about £212k with the average higher spec cars at the £230k mark. Whilst they don’t have any residual figures after 3 years yet they have based some of their thinking around the Ferrari F8, which has a 60% RV after 36 months (guide not guarantee). So your anticipated £100k hit on the better spec cars is fairly accurate. I agree at £150k+ a few options it looks far more attractive.

The car has a lot going for it and has some really special touches that make the engineering stand out from the rest of the crowd, like the carbon tub made by Dallara but I don’t think this will be enough to make it sell in great numbers. The dealer I spoke to initially said interest had been really high but later admitted only two orders had been taken for customers with a third order being a demo. I also hear that a sport version will follow in the future so goodness knows how that will be priced……

Let’s hope a lightly used one makes a little more sense.
 

Ebenezer

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Hypothetically speaking, I'd be waiting for the new Granturismo unless it's only electic, and again only after it had depreciated to an affordable level.

You need very deep pockets to buy anything new

Eb
 
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Hawk13

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I have said this a number of times and nothing has changed - at £200k it has too much competition and given (expected) depreciation it would not be on my list of cars to buy.
 

MrMickS

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On another thread Belfry asks about Merak values, and having watched the brand for a few decades I think the same question could be asked about the MC20 in a few years time.

I think that’s the wrong comparison. I can understand it, they both have a V6, but that’s regulation driven.

The better comparison would be with the Bora. The new GT is the Merak, even with a different engine layout the market segment is the same.

IMO it will sell enough to make it worthwhile and few enough to not dilute the value too much.
 

Tallman

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I haven’t bought a new car for years, in fact the last one was 15 years ago. Unless I win the lottery I won’t be either as I just can’t get myself to weather that first year depreciation hit, especially on very high end motors. Bit IF I was in the market for a mid engined supercar, I quite fancy the MC20. I’d buy it over the Ferrari - the McLarens and Lamborghinis wouldn’t even come in play because they are too exotic and extreme for me. I like the clean lines of the MC20, strangely enough it reminds me of the clean lines and elegance of the QPV. It has the potential to be a classic because it looks more timeless than it’s more exotic competitors.
 

Doohickey

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I love the looks of the car and if I had £200k to spend on this type of car it would probably be well up the list if not top, if in part due to its likely exclusivity. I had a good look at Goodwood and it looks even better in the metal than in photos. I agree that the interior will need careful speccing though.

However, one thing that could kill this is the dealer network - or lack of it. For me in Leeds, the Maserati dealer is a small area that you reach by wading through a sea of BMWs in the ar$e end of Bradford. And this is the only dealer in the north east of England. Ferrari and Aston are in nice shiny exclusive showrooms on the ring road in Leeds. Ferrari is currently building a huge dealership near Porsche and McLaren and Lambo also have large and prominent showrooms. It's not conducive to anyone buying a £200k car.

They need to sort this out or they've no chance.
 

Phil H

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I think that’s the wrong comparison. I can understand it, they both have a V6, but that’s regulation driven.

The better comparison would be with the Bora. The new GT is the Merak, even with a different engine layout the market segment is the same.

IMO it will sell enough to make it worthwhile and few enough to not dilute the value too much.
The Merak came during some turbulent corporate years, with Citroen at the helm, and with a 'fuel crisis' on the horizon; that was followed by further changes of ownership and somewhat mixed fortunes for the brand in the following years. Similarly, the MC20 arrives after significant corporate change, in the midst of a different kind of 'fuel crisis', and with a desperate need to reinvigorate the brand. Stellantis needs a seriously robust plan to gain and maintain traction in a very competitive market where £200k will open so many other doors, not the least of which is that of Ferrari - formerly Maserati's most successful partner! I'm sure the issue of the dealer network can be addressed, if there is the will to do so.
 

Ewan

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It's over 100 miles to my nearest dealer, and it's not as if I feel out-of-the-way living in Dorset!

Both the Roma and the MC20 are available at around the £210k mark. Which will depreciate more over 3 years I wonder? The Ferrari will be far more numerous, but has a stronger brand image. The Maserati will have greater rarity, but is a Maserati. It's anyone's guess.
 

midlifecrisis

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The MC20 is a halo car and a brand demonstrator of what Maserasti can do. Now that Ferrari have been separated from the rest of FCA/Stellantis, they won't be able to steal cars that are 'too good' such as the California (GranCab) or Alfieri (Roma). nThe Ferrari prices have been holding but they'll drop when the 7 year maintenance deal has finished.

Is it worth 200k? I'm not sure, will I have one? Yes! Can I afford one? I'll let you know after Saturday's Lottery result.
I'm more interested in what wil the next GT be? No doubt with Electric, which is again late to the party like the diesel Ghibli, I'll wait for the Hydrogen version or keep my dinosaur juice one.
 

StuartW

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I spent an hour with one last month and was impressed but I will reserve judgment until October when the demonstrators are due here and I get a test drive
 

azapa

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The very fact that it was been very well received world wide, with healthy orders being placed, and that even you lot (tough crowd) haven't kicked it to death yet is very positive. I think it will be a win for Maserati and the brand! Hard to imagine loosing money on a 10 to 15 year horizon and up, but some backlash in the first three years yes. That's when I plan to swoop :p
 

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It must say I have been having unfaithful thoughts (don’t tell my Strad). It looks good from what I have seen and will certainly want to try one.

I think that it really depends on what they do with more “special” versions, maybe it won’t sell in big enough numbers for this to be a factor.
 

Oishi

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I think the MC20 is very special, and I hope that it puts Maserati back where it belongs, but just as I wouldn't have paid $106k for my Spyder in 2003,
for the same money as a MC20, I could buy a nice Ghibli I, an un-restored but excellent Merak, a Granturismo GT4, and a 90th an. Spyder.
 

D Walker

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Group buy?

Four way, £50k each and 1000 miles a year use each?

or 2 way Zep, £100k each and use it on trips, LM and Euro Sept, I know a garage who will store it :cool:
If you can deliver to north east !!
Has to be blue tho