New job protection plan

[Wattie]

Wow, what a great solution that would be. World financial markets collapse, global economy devastated, billions without jobs, billions lose their homes, billions lose their pensions, billions commit suicide because they have no future. Just so you can watch the value of your gold holdings rise and say I told you so.

And who is going to pay for the all the global misery your “solution” would create? Because somebody is going to have to. So your solution is no solution at all, just another rant from another one of the utterly selfish people on this planet.

Wow, what a great solution that would be. World financial markets collapse, global economy devastated, billions without jobs, billions lose their homes, billions lose their pensions, billions commit suicide because they have no future. Just so you can watch the value of your gold holdings rise and say I told you so.

And who is going to pay for the all the global misery your “solution” would create? Because somebody is going to have to. So your solution is no solution at all, just another rant from another one of the utterly selfish people on this planet.

well I wouldn’t expect anything else from the clueless.
$1t bailout today
Or $2tIn six months.
rwc13 u and your likers.
No clue

 

[Wattie]

I’m frankly over dealing with fuckw1ts.
If u wanna preserve what u have Pm me.

 

[CatmanV2]

Seems to me that its time to 'run for the hills,' get some serious precious metal under ya belt, a shotgun or sniper rifle to fend off the mob and keep ya head down for the next 40 years..
For sure its going to he a rough ride for all countries over the next few years which could lead to political instability and a breakdown of our financial systems. Hope I'm wrong but I fear we have grim times ahead...

Just let society flounder and come back when everyone else has sorted out the problems you mean? Did you ever read The Hitchiker's Guid

C

 

[spkennyuk]

This graph (Open Table data) shows a tentative first week, followed by weekend trade increased along with Mon-Weds, to a significant overall improvement. Still not possible to demonstrate causation by comparing days though.

Just to be clear the graphs show first week data from eating places only. It does not show the effect it had on wet sales only pubs.

Im fully aware of what happened in my immediate local area across 10 pubs and their real time data across the whole time period of the scheme.

My point was and remains it could have been done in a much better way to spread the load across the industry. While there were positive effects overall there were also negative effects.

Was the scheme abused by some companies and sole traders. Yes without doubt.

A few examples.

Mcdonalds, KFC drive through mon to wed was full price. Park your car go in and order get 50% off order handed to you in take out bags which you take back to your car and leave.

Companies that enrolled on the eat out scheme that were closed for the duration of it. Weird or fraud i wouldnt like to say.

Vouchers being sold monday to wednesday under the eat out to help out scheme for use thursday to sunday. Im aware of that happening in my local area.

Butty wagons taking part in the scheme that had no indoor or outdoor seating at all. Purely take away which was excluded from the scheme but still taking part and claiming 50% back from the government.

Would be interesting to see where the week 1 snap shot of data the economist published actually came from and how accurate it actually was.

Perhaps what i saw in real time was peculiar to this area. When the data is spread across 10 outlets that im in contact with then its a fair data set to work with.

Your spot on with saying there is no valid baseline to compare against.

You cant compare july and august 2020 to july and august 2019.

Day 1 of pub data that had any meaning in current conditions started on july 4th and any increase or decrease can only be compared on a week on week or month by month basis from that point.

I agree the scheme had a positive effect overall but there were winners and losers within it.

Any success is kind of mute now considering the 10pm curfew imposed on the industry within weeks of the scheme ending.

 

[nigw]

Just to be clear the graphs show first week data from eating places only.

Just to be clear it shows the entire month of July and of August. The blue bands are the weekends.

I agree the support was not fully equitable across hospitality types, and some no doubt abused it (as is human nature sadly!)

 

[nigw]

Any success is kind of mute now considering the 10pm curfew imposed on the industry within weeks of the scheme ending.

I agree success will be quiet when pubs close early

 

[Rwc13]

I’d

well I wouldn’t expect anything else from the clueless.
$1t bailout today
Or $2tIn six months.
rwc13 u and your likers.
No clue

I’d rather be a ******* than a stupid selfish c**t like you

 

[Zep]

Let’s all try and remember not to make things personal.

If you are going to post an opinion on the internet, someone is going to disagree with you. If you can’t or don’t want to deal with that the simplest solution is not to post it. Is everyone ok with that?

 

[MarkMas]

well I wouldn’t expect anything else from the clueless.
$1t bailout today
Or $2tIn six months.
rwc13 u and your likers.
No clue

I’d rather be a *** than a stupid selfish c**t like you

I get as ****** off as anyone on here by what some people write, but let's please keep things reasonably civilised and not escalate or be quite so personal.

 

[Wanderer]

Rik: Guys. Look at us, bickering, squabbling. We never used to be like this!

Vyv: Yes we did.......

 

[spkennyuk]

Queen to receive government ‘bailout’

‘This royal bailout will be tough to stomach for people who love the Queen but have lost their jobs,’ says Tax Justice UK

www.independent.co.uk

Wtf ! So every other property portfolio owner has to manage with reduced rents and empty property but if your the Queen who is worth around £500 million then dont worry the tax payer will top up your profits to last years level.

Utter madness pay your share and take the pain like every other person that has no choice but to do. The royal family should not be an exception or indeed a further burden on the ever increasing covid costs.

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Queen to recieve government 'bailout' to top up income after Crown Estate hit by economic slump
Queen to receive government ‘bailout’ to top up income after Crown Estate hit by economic slump
‘This royal bailout will be tough to stomach for people who love the Queen but have lost their jobs,’ says Tax Justice UK

Adam Forrest@adamtomforrest
2 days ago
18 comments


Boris Johnson’s government has confirmed it will top up the Queen’s income following a significant slump in the Crown Estate’s revenue during the coronavirus crisis.
The royal family takes in rental receipts from shops in London’s Regent Street, alongside malls and retail parks around the country – but the value of its portfolio has fallen by more than £500m since the pandemic hit.

The Treasury said it would provide the estate with extra money to meet any shortfall in profits and make sure the Queen’s sovereign grant remains at its current level.

“In the event of a reduction in the Crown Estate’s profits, the sovereign grant is set at the same level as the previous year,” a spokesperson said told The Independent.

 

[CatmanV2]

Rik: Guys. Look at us, bickering, squabbling. We never used to be like this!

Vyv: Yes we did.......

Neil! Your bed's on fire!

C

 

[Wanderer]

Neil! Your bed's on fire!

C

Neil, Neil, orange peel.......

Just about Rik's last TV appearance, never changed! RIP, loved that guy...

 

[Oneball]

 

[Wanderer]

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Can I just say Oneball, that's a smashing blouse you're wearing.....

 

[CatmanV2]

Neil, Neil, orange peel.......

Just about Rik's last TV appearance, never changed! RIP, loved that guy...

Sort of went to school at my father in law's place. I think

Anyway, loved The Young Ones. Not so much on Bottom but hey, the 'Sick' episode is more than most can do in a full lifespan

C

 

[Oneball]

Can I just say Oneball, that's a smashing blouse you're wearing.....

Firm jugs.

 

[Silvercat]

Just let society flounder and come back when everyone else has sorted out the problems you mean? Did you ever read The Hitchiker's Guid

C

I did....back in the day.

 

[Wattie]

I’d

I’d rather be a *** than a stupid selfish c**t like you

Congratulations, on ticking both boxes.

 

[Wattie]

Wtf ! So every other property portfolio owner has to manage with reduced rents and empty property but if your the Queen who is worth around £500 million then dont worry the tax payer will top up your profits to last years level.

Utter madness pay your share and take the pain like every other person that has no choice but to do. The royal family should not be an exception or indeed a further burden on the ever increasing covid costs.

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Queen to recieve government 'bailout' to top up income after Crown Estate hit by economic slump
Queen to receive government ‘bailout’ to top up income after Crown Estate hit by economic slump
‘This royal bailout will be tough to stomach for people who love the Queen but have lost their jobs,’ says Tax Justice UK

Adam Forrest@adamtomforrest
2 days ago
18 comments


Boris Johnson’s government has confirmed it will top up the Queen’s income following a significant slump in the Crown Estate’s revenue during the coronavirus crisis.
The royal family takes in rental receipts from shops in London’s Regent Street, alongside malls and retail parks around the country – but the value of its portfolio has fallen by more than £500m since the pandemic hit.

The Treasury said it would provide the estate with extra money to meet any shortfall in profits and make sure the Queen’s sovereign grant remains at its current level.

“In the event of a reduction in the Crown Estate’s profits, the sovereign grant is set at the same level as the previous year,” a spokesperson said told The Independent.

This is why people are beginning to see the light.
A Bailout for the Queen.
Unbelievable.