Novitec Maserati Supercharger

[CraigWaterman11]

So guys after obtaining my MC Stradale (U.S. version) and loving it. I find, that I want to see if there's any interest in a Supercharger kit for these cars. Let's be honest........first Novitec is out of their f$%^ minds for $35k for a Supercharger kit. Now mind you it was a great thing they did for the car for sure. I believe the numbers were 646 bhp on the cars they have modified.

But look, a Rotrex C38 Centrifugal SC, injectors, fuel pump, water to air intercoolers (obvious hardware needed like water pump, reservoir, etc), mounting brackets, and when it's finished a tune to take advantage of it shouldn't cost 35k. Honestly, seriously, look I get making money, I get making a profit, but.........

So look this is what I am looking to do. What true interest is there in a Supercharger kit that would fit on the GTS? What price point, obviously being reasonable? I'm not totally sold on a water to air intercooler with the plumbing yet, better yes, necessary? I think an air to air would work and be sufficient as well, and less expensive. If that's all people want to cut cost.

See it's great the Stradale has the numbers it does and all, when I stick my foot in it with the Larini exhaust it sounds like an angry Exotic. But I actually want it to go extremely fast with that sound. I am going to use my own car for R&D. I want to believe if I could break Novitec's cost in half or more, people would actually invest in the kit for their cars. Wishful thinking, I don't know? I do know that if I knew there was enough interest I would focus on it more so I could get it to market. True interest.

Give me some feed back guys, what do you think?

If you have questions throw it out there.

 

[CatmanV2]

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Seriously, brother, I would love a super charged GT/S/ Strad but I really doubt I can afford it, so hit me!

C

 

[azapa]

Hey Craig. First off, love your input to the 'open source' maserati community. Thanks for all your tips etc.

Secondly, where did you find a stradale in the USA? There are a few geniune euro spec stradales that crop up here, around the 100k us$ mark, that I wonder if s true collector would go for in the us? Shipping is not that expensive.

To the real point, the supercharger. The price novetec charge has nothing to do with the cost, it's just their know-how, and mainly gut feeling of the upper limit that a maserati buyer may be prepared to spend. I have never heard or seen one, not even on YouTube, so I guess they guessed the latter wrong.

It would be a real performance gain though, and probably quite easy too as there is plenty of space in there, up front too, for the intercooler.

I would be more worried about handling. IMHO the stradale already has enough power for it's chassis. Or to put it less kindly: it is not a great handling car. I don't think this is down to weights, more like a mediocre suspension design. It's jittery at over 7/10 ths on anything other than perfect non-cambered surface. Brakes are fine for an extra 100+hp though, imho.

It sounds like fun though. Maybe more so for a regular MC Shift, because they are about half the price, and you would not have to worry about non-original parts reducing a stradales eventual classic value. The brakes would probably be an issue though.

I'd love to see you do it though, because you can!



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[AaronE]

I'm intrigued... but then again, I've also this harebrained idea to add electric motors to the front wheels...

 

[conaero]

Craig, I would consider it and there will be plenty GTS owners here too that would also.

 

[mjheathcote]

The problem, over here, is that customers would want support, over here, support with a company and workshop to install, and return for any niggles.
I just can't see many shelling out over £10K on a mail order kit, no matter how good it might be, unless a UK distributor with support is used.
I think you will have good success in the US though as tuning cars is much more mainstream it would appear.

 

[conaero]

Stu, Krishna’s mate runs a garage that specialises in superchargers maybe that would be an idea to arrange the install and support with them. Stu has a family hatch that puts out something ridiculous like 450hp. I chatted to him at Le Mans about fitting one to a Maz and he said it’s simple.

He indicated £3-4K to supply and fit a compressor.

 

[MGT]

Stu, Krishna’s mate runs a garage that specialises in superchargers maybe that would be an idea to arrange the install and support with them. Stu has a family hatch that puts out something ridiculous like 450hp. I chatted to him at Le Mans about fitting one to a Maz and he said it’s simple.

He indicated £3-4K to supply and fit a compressor.

Seems very cheap! What about mapping, fueling, air cooling?

 

[conaero]

No idea that would probably be included as he has access to the gear.

 

[mjheathcote]

No idea that would probably be included as he has access to the gear.

What's the company do they have a web site?

 

[CraigWaterman11]

If he can do it that inexpensive, we should just contact him then. Seriously. Your going to need the SC, the mounting plates (custom fit and made for this car since no one makes them). If your going with a self contained oiling system SC, you need the lines, and cooler. Custom drive belt pulley for the crank of the Mas. Intercooler (water to air or air to air). Plumbing for running the boosted air to the intake, also all custom. Updated fuel pump to push the pressure you need to the fuel rail, and updated injectors to make sure you push it to the cylinders. That's off the top of my head.

Honestly, support will not be hard, only because if you have a direct bolt up application pretty much any Tech with experience should be able to handle it, with pics to show him how. Once you have the R&D car tuned where it needs to be at, that can be replicated in any ECU. I have a Dyno in state that I plan to take the car to when I'm done.

But if the guy you mentioned can actually do it for that price point **** I'm in for it. If he's willing to fabricate the mounting plates, and accompanying pulleys/tensioner, that in my opinion is the hardest part of all of it. You need to pick the SC you want to go with in advance because pretty much all of them mount differently.

 

[conaero]

Ill text him now.

 

[conaero]

He’s got Krishna’s car in for paint in May and he’s going to price it up whilst he’s got it.

 

[alfatwo]

Carful about the new MOT tests in May!

Dave

 

[CraigWaterman11]

Okay, sounds good. I'm going to continue as planned. I kind of figured for someone to throw a number out there without having actually looked at it would have been odd. I think you will find it a bit more expensive than what you thought.

 

[Mattp]

Please... make the kits... way, way out of my reach! But I would just love to experience It!!
My brothers mini with a big charger was fun... my friends vr6 with charger and water injuction pulled like a steam train and sounded angry! 650 supercharged horse power from a maserati V8 would be a real treat to all senses!

 

[Felonious Crud]

650 supercharged horse power from a maserati V8 would be a real treat to all senses!

Other than on the Strad, unless the less-than-impressive brakes on the GTS were similarly uprated it would be a calamity for anyone who wanted to avoid soiling their underwear.

 

[conaero]

Adam has a point, you need the carbon-ceramics or it will be lethal!

Then there is the insurance:

“Any modifications?”

“Yes an aftermarket supercharger pulling 650 horses!”

“Bye”

 

[spkennyuk]

Talking of brake discs. Driving down the road today and i saw in the road ahead what appeared to be 5 or 6 rocks / stones in the road. As i got closer i could see vent holes along the edge. It was a brake disc split into 5 or 6 pieces scattered over 10 feet of road.

If that happened when somebody was driving i think they probably had to change their pants afterwards.

 

[CraigWaterman11]

Well if it's any consolation. I've put a clutch in and rebuilt two Precision turbos for an Underground Racing Gallardo. Any time you are moving from stock increasing horsepower that much the stock brakes are never enough. That car was the fastest thing I've ever personally driven. But what you are hoping is people have common sense about when they are moving down the street, and are cognizant of what streets they are on. If not might as well forget the brakes altogether, they aren't going to help anyway.

I'm not doing this for the faint of heart. I'm doing it more because that car has the look and design worthy of that power. The ride can be stiffened and adjusted easily with coil overs, but braking, well if your that foolish. I cannot fix stupid. You have to know the limits to what you are driving.

I've already have most of the parts list together. I'm starting on the mounting plates. I have the injectors, fuel pump, and the Supercharger I am going to go with. Trying to figure out the best way to handle the mounting of the crank pulley.

For the really ridiculous guys. I've already spoken to JE pistons this morning. They literally fabricate any piston you want from scratch. They are the ones I would use if using forced air induction on a Gallardo. They have standard size 9:1 pistons for that car. After speaking with them they can fabricate 9:1 pistons for the 4.7l for me as well.

Right now I plan on designing the kit around 650hp with right at about 6 psi of boost or slightly above. This will be a bolt on kit that pretty much anyone can do. But if someone wanted to step up past that. JE can cut pistons as well, and in the near future connecting rods.

I cannot tell you about what you tell MOT or insurance. I can tell you you won't be able to spot the kit easily.