Problems with a particular car ?

[JamieP]

Hi guys,

Recently drove a GT Mc Sport Line (Red auto trader £35,495) and I was completely disappointed with how it drove. Suspension was firm, steering wasn’t direct and lacked feel and the brakes felt dead. I’m comparing this to my XKR and M5 Touring so not sure if it’s that I’m not use to the car or wether it was specifically poor car.

Any feedback would be brilliant!

 

[christianm]

When i first bought my first GT i had a M3 prior driving back i thought what have i done i bought a boat!After a while you realize they have there own magic.

 

[JamieP]

When i first bought my first GT i had a M3 prior driving back i thought what have i done i bought a boat!After a while you realize they have there own magic.

Did you find all the things I mentioned similar though, what were your initial thoughts ?

 

[christianm]

The one you looked at is the 42k miles facelift aswell .Exactly what you said steering compared to the M3 was shocking was floaty felt like a barge almost like it was sliding away was my memory , suspension wasnt firm as was coming from a lowered M3 they have there own character but ive had 2 and looking for another so that tells you everything .

 

[Sam McGoo]

The geo set up makes a big difference to these cars. It's never gonna be a fast pointy car, but can still feel very involving if set up right.
Also, that particular car, if it hasn't had any wishbone bushes in 42k miles, they will very likely be past their best. Which again, will make a massive difference.

I came from 3 years in a Nissan GTR, which was obviously on rails and much, much faster so was a big difference, but I love driving mine so much.
When looking to buy, I found that the skyhook equipped cars (most GT's) felt a bit soft in normal and a bit skittish in sport.
My preference is one that has the fixed rate MC handling pack (stradale suspension) it feels just right, slightly on the sportier side and a bit lower than standard.
You can also get a 'normal' fixed rate suspension which I also preferred over the skyhook. It's a fair bit softer than the MC suspension but is one of the smoothest feeling cars I've driven, soaks up all the bumps, but somehow is not too soft and wallowing and is still fun in the corners.

 

[christianm]

The geo set up makes a big difference to these cars. It's never gonna be a fast pointy car, but can still feel very involving if set up right.
Also, that particular car, if it hasn't had any wishbone bushes in 42k miles, they will very likely be past their best. Which again, will make a massive difference.

I came from 3 years in a Nissan GTR, which was obviously on rails and much, much faster so was a big difference, but I love driving mine so much.
When looking to buy, I found that the skyhook equipped cars (most GT's) felt a bit soft in normal and a bit skittish in sport.
My preference is one that has the fixed rate MC handling pack (stradale suspension) it feels just right, slightly on the sportier side and a bit lower than standard.
You can also get a 'normal' fixed rate suspension which I also preferred over the skyhook. It's a fair bit softer than the MC suspension but is one of the smoothest feeling cars I've driven, soaks up all the bumps, but somehow is not too soft and wallowing and is still fun in the corners.

Previous GTR owner also agree with above .

 

[JJbing]

I actually find the GT similar to an XKR, big, wafty, great sounding V8, I'm surprised you don't find it similar to that. Great VFM.

 

[conaero]

The geo set up makes a big difference to these cars. It's never gonna be a fast pointy car, but can still feel very involving if set up right.
Also, that particular car, if it hasn't had any wishbone bushes in 42k miles, they will very likely be past their best. Which again, will make a massive difference.

I came from 3 years in a Nissan GTR, which was obviously on rails and much, much faster so was a big difference, but I love driving mine so much.
When looking to buy, I found that the skyhook equipped cars (most GT's) felt a bit soft in normal and a bit skittish in sport.
My preference is one that has the fixed rate MC handling pack (stradale suspension) it feels just right, slightly on the sportier side and a bit lower than standard.
You can also get a 'normal' fixed rate suspension which I also preferred over the skyhook. It's a fair bit softer than the MC suspension but is one of the smoothest feeling cars I've driven, soaks up all the bumps, but somehow is not too soft and wallowing and is still fun in the corners.

^ This

I suspect the front bushes have not been changed, if so they will be hanging, they only last 25k miles max, internally split and rotate. Add in a set of Michelin’s and a full geo and it will handle as it should.

They are a GT car, not a hyper car, if you want more hardcore, try the Stradale.

 

[Hawk13]

^ This

I suspect the front bushes have not been changed, if so they will be hanging, they only last 25k miles max, internally split and rotate. Add in a set of Michelin’s and a full geo and it will handle as it should.

They are a GT car, not a hyper car, if you want more hardcore, try the Stradale.

+1

 

[Mr S]

From the little experience iv had, and have read, whist some cars you jump in and go YES this is for me, the Maserati’s for some people you need to spend abit of time in to appreciate everything and gel with the car and learn to get the best out of it. Depends what you are coming from i guess. Certainly the M5 would be like a race car in comparison, but as Conaero has said, could be spec related or bushes and geo etc need sorting. Maybe try a few different ones and see if your opinion changes

 

[JamieP]

Hi guys thanks for all the replies the car as a whole wasn’t in prestige condition- Although not expected at that price and age but yes maybe I need to try a second one from a main dealer to know for certain. Is there any differences in the way a 19 plate drives compared to a 13/14 ?

 

[Motorsport3]

Hi guys,

Recently drove a GT Mc Sport Line (Red auto trader £35,495) and I was completely disappointed with how it drove. Suspension was firm, steering wasn’t direct and lacked feel and the brakes felt dead. I’m comparing this to my XKR and M5 Touring so not sure if it’s that I’m not use to the car or wether it was specifically poor car.

Any feedback would be brilliant!

I found that they are very sensitive to the wheel alignment and quality of ruber. If either is off there is noticeable lack of confidence in the drive.

 

[Bebs]

The geo set up makes a big difference to these cars. It's never gonna be a fast pointy car, but can still feel very involving if set up right.
Also, that particular car, if it hasn't had any wishbone bushes in 42k miles, they will very likely be past their best. Which again, will make a massive difference.

I came from 3 years in a Nissan GTR, which was obviously on rails and much, much faster so was a big difference, but I love driving mine so much.
When looking to buy, I found that the skyhook equipped cars (most GT's) felt a bit soft in normal and a bit skittish in sport.
My preference is one that has the fixed rate MC handling pack (stradale suspension) it feels just right, slightly on the sportier side and a bit lower than standard.
You can also get a 'normal' fixed rate suspension which I also preferred over the skyhook. It's a fair bit softer than the MC suspension but is one of the smoothest feeling cars I've driven, soaks up all the bumps, but somehow is not too soft and wallowing and is still fun in the corners.

^^^ Agree, this.
I fitted new wishbones and track rod ends etc to mine, full geo with new Michelin’s. The car was transformed. I know it’s big and heavy but it’s fairly sharp and pointy nonetheless now.. obviously not compared to my 360 but it really isn’t that far off.

 

[midlifecrisis]

^ This

I suspect the front bushes have not been changed, if so they will be hanging, they only last 25k miles max, internally split and rotate. Add in a set of Michelin’s and a full geo and it will handle as it should.

They are a GT car, not a hyper car, if you want more hardcore, try the Stradale.

SportsItalia did mine at the end of last year and it's a different beast, it wasn't bad, but the car is more predictable and stable braking into corners. It's a good haggling point if you want to buy the car.

 

[montravia]

SportsItalia did mine at the end of last year and it's a different beast, it wasn't bad, but the car is more predictable and stable braking into corners. It's a good haggling point if you want to buy the car.

Ditto. Remarkable improvement.
On rails.
The GT is a combination of compliance, feedback and firmness when needed and appropriate.
It learns.
It's a GT. It's characteristics are different to my light nimble Spyder.
Both please me.
I've had the fortune of driving several 'M ' series ' top of the range' Sports coupes.

I can't say that any of them compared with either the GT or Spyder.

Personal preferences

 

[JamieP]

Ditto. Remarkable improvement.
On rails.
The GT is a combination of compliance, feedback and firmness when needed and appropriate.
It learns.
It's a GT. It's characteristics are different to my light nimble Spyder.
Both please me.
I've had the fortune of driving several 'M ' series ' top of the range' Sports coupes.

I can't say that any of them compared with either the GT or Spyder.

Personal preferences

 

[JamieP]

Yes bushes seem to be the reoccurring theme, I’ve booked in a test drive at my local Maser dealer for a drive in the same 2020 model. Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.