ENZ525
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Story from Bloomberg a few days ago...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...enter-man-s-world-with-400-000-maseratis.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...enter-man-s-world-with-400-000-maseratis.html
Rich Chinese Women Open Throttle
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I've worked out there a lot in the last 4 years in an industrial city called YonKang, about 300 miles SW of Shanghai.
It's a very different culture based on trust and respect or 'mi-quan-shi' 'no problem' roughly translates to; I'll do anything you say, not let you pay for anything or let you alone for a minute... Thank you for the order. Now we have mi-quan-shi... You can get yourself back to the airport, we will send you exactly what you ordered (including faults if you didn't spot them on the sample!!!), oh and before we ship the contract price has jumped 10%!!!!
Don't get me wrong I love the place and the 'can do' attitude but caveat emptor... Live there for a few weeks and you can start to see the corruption and hoodwinking that exists in the emerging capitalist ecconomy. One example I encountered (of many) was steel tubing 32mm RHS should have 2.0mm wall thickness (allowable range of 1.75-2.25mm) so the sample arrives and is passed as within speck; somehow the order arrives and the storeman is paid off to accept what comes off the lorry... Call a QS meeting and they'll fetch up a sample of the good stuff every time!!! Goods arive in UK and start failling and when you investigate the tube will be anything down to 0.7mm thick!!! AAAaaagghhhh!!!!!!
Don't let me get started on welding........
Millionaires you bet yourass there are plenty....
It's a very different culture based on trust and respect or 'mi-quan-shi' 'no problem' roughly translates to; I'll do anything you say, not let you pay for anything or let you alone for a minute... Thank you for the order. Now we have mi-quan-shi... You can get yourself back to the airport, we will send you exactly what you ordered (including faults if you didn't spot them on the sample!!!), oh and before we ship the contract price has jumped 10%!!!!
Don't get me wrong I love the place and the 'can do' attitude but caveat emptor... Live there for a few weeks and you can start to see the corruption and hoodwinking that exists in the emerging capitalist ecconomy. One example I encountered (of many) was steel tubing 32mm RHS should have 2.0mm wall thickness (allowable range of 1.75-2.25mm) so the sample arrives and is passed as within speck; somehow the order arrives and the storeman is paid off to accept what comes off the lorry... Call a QS meeting and they'll fetch up a sample of the good stuff every time!!! Goods arive in UK and start failling and when you investigate the tube will be anything down to 0.7mm thick!!! AAAaaagghhhh!!!!!!
Don't let me get started on welding........
Millionaires you bet yourass there are plenty....
lozcb
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My missus has just read this 2b1 , she lived and worked out there for 10 years as operations director for an electronics company soley owned by a UK company in Guangzhou , she speaks fluent Mandarin and was nodding as she read it , for exactly that reason is why she was outhere in the first place to maintain quality standards, they would always skimp or use substandard materials given the oppurtunity to do so when left to there own devices ,
One of there biggest problems was retaining trained staff , they had several that nicked plans /development ideas and customers and went off and started up on their own
Got to give them credit tho true rags to riches story in such a short spell , i thought the middle east reached the 20 century a bit quick but China has broken all records
regards loz
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Ha, this is intresting on so many levels to me..
I have to deal with quite a few chinese suppliers who produce vaious prototypes for us.They are so friendly and say yes we can do that, yes thats yes it only costs this. Then when samples turn up they are full of bugs and totally wrong..Go back to them and they say no it was correct when we tested it!!!
I thought it could have been my bad judgement in choosing a supplier so very reassuring to find others have found the same problems..
I have to deal with quite a few chinese suppliers who produce vaious prototypes for us.They are so friendly and say yes we can do that, yes thats yes it only costs this. Then when samples turn up they are full of bugs and totally wrong..Go back to them and they say no it was correct when we tested it!!!
I thought it could have been my bad judgement in choosing a supplier so very reassuring to find others have found the same problems..