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Ebenezer

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this is one reason I only lasted 3 years at Barclays.) For some people, it feels better to be closely-aligned with a small tribe of nutters, than to be lost in the general mainstream.
Does this explain your presence here then?
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Tallman

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I suppose you could compare people discussing the pros and cons of yellow vs red callipers with flat earthers (I’m still going with red)
 
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As you'd imagine, there's a whole branch of psychology devoted to group dynamics and I find it fascinating.
From thousands of years ago and even up to present times, an individual's survival depended on being part of a group. Its not only the individual that chooses the group. The group chooses the individual.
There's a phrase, 'those like us'. Which is why candidates are advised to research dress, organisational histories, the social conventions and even speaking patterns of their target companies. To put into the mind of the interviewer that s/he isn't an outsider, but 'one of us'.
How individuals make meaning of everything around them is another huge branch of psychology and the preeminent research group of our times, was led by a Harvard professor called Kegan. His books are very readable and aimed at an audience wider than just academics.
Very generally, I think that the flat earth guy (I haven't watched the vid yet) is making meaning of earth and science now, using our part of the brain which was formed when we were nomadic tribes in Africa. At that time, pre science, what really mattered was the 'givens' that were handed down through generations. What we call superstitions. What not so long ago were regarded as fact. Like witches and the Salem Witch Trials.
As science and social science advances, I'm guessing that the majority of us are playing catch up. Although in some places the majority believe what their tribe tells them, over the impartial and independently established facts.
Like MAGA and the stolen election meme. This example, of many, illustrates why this branch of psychology is so important right now.
 

CatmanV2

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Thanks C. Put much more concisely than I managed :clap:

No I love it. What you wrote was spot on, but clearly we're only scratching the surface. The research is fascinating. The biggest issue I see is that many of the behaviours (like group polarisation) are basically designed to protect themselves so the people that need to look / understand the research and actual motivations are the least likely to actually have their behaviour changed.

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No I love it. What you wrote was spot on, but clearly we're only scratching the surface. The research is fascinating. The biggest issue I see is that many of the behaviours (like group polarisation) are basically designed to protect themselves so the people that need to look / understand the research and actual motivations are the least likely to actually have their behaviour changed.
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Precisely. Possibly the best example of this are the millions of Americans who Trump will persuade to vote for him in 2024. I believe he will be the next President. That scares me. Like few things have ever done.
 

Wack61

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No fear of anyone intervening , I was hoping for a wrist and a lot of blood , disappointingly nothing happened , some poor ******* worked hard for that

 
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For anyone whose been trained to use firearms. Put down your tea. Centre yourself.
Otherwise you might end up on the floor, covered in tea, having pee'd yourself laughing.

The mirth really takes off around 2.45.