The good morning thread

Silvercat

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I have an idea for a little retirement business, it won't make me rich but if it goes OK it will bring in a few quid and has me tinkering about with classic cars. A couple more years proper work with a few more days off will help me get it set up and test before packing up real work for ever.
Sounds like a fantastic idea....
 

2b1ask1

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After having (almost) no pets at home for many years the menagerie has been growing to include cats, dogs and more recently fish, Jeanette got a small tank for the first grandson and populated it with guppies and last Christmas the kids bought her a larger tank with filter and light etc. Over the year we have 'bread' a new generation of guppies, she has bought a couple of fancy males and plants and other bits. Being busier I got a heater and even a bubbler. Last weekend we found ourselves in a garden centre with an aquatic section and there was a beautiful looking fish on its own in a tank and a label saying male guppy. We talked to the staff and explained the setup and asked if it would be ok in there to be reassured it should be but if it fights, you will know very quickly and you could bring it back...

(Wonders how many of you are ahead of me already)

Well by today there are several of the adults in the tank missing chunks of their tails but not him! A hastily prepared second tank and whip him out of there, a bit of research on exotic guppy males doesn't find him but betta does!!!

Anyone want a Siamese Fighting Fish on here???

I ask myself the question, why the bl00dy he11 would they sell us it given the information we gave them?
 

Andyk

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That's a hard decision Martin......Most of my work in life I worked weekend in the industry I'm in but the job I have now is Monday to Friday as pubs don't want deliveries on the weekend so the depot is shut. Unless I have to I wouldn't go back to any 5 from 7. I could get more money by doing that but for me having that weekend free and spending that quality time with the family was more important. Talk to most in Tradteteam and that's the one thing that keeps them in our industry. In a very fast paced world (or was) where everyone seems to want everything yesterday it's refreshing to have that time at the weekend to recharge ready for Monday.

Good morning all.
 

philw696

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Morning Guys and feels cooler this morning but going to be nice for our little trip over into Brittany.
Have a great day all.
 

Andyk

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Covid audit for me today. Did one so we could open now they are back to make sure we are following what we put in and aren't going around licking each other's faces.
 
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midlifecrisis

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Covid audit for me today. Did one so we can open now they are back to make we ae following what we put in and aren't going around licking each other's faces.
Good morning Andy, our H&S manager was putting 2m marks in a corridor that is 1.5m wide, and only did the admin part. It was quite laughable watching them doing manual labour with a tape measure.
More training course today, yesterday we covered all the parts of the new comms system in one day. 30 years ago that would have taken two weeks! Such is the technology these days.
 

zagatoes30

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Covid audit for me today. Did one so we can open now they are back to make we ae following what we put in and aren't going around licking each other's faces.

What a thought :as003:

Back to WFH after a long weekend off but at least just another short week although still have 5 days work to squeeze into 3
 

GeoffCapes

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Morning all. Been in the office a few hours and already I want to kill someone!

I've finally come to the realisation that something I've worked long and ******* (oooerr) and spent a small fortune (sale of my Maser) is becoming more and more of a pipe dream.
Getting engineers to settle on something that might not be absolutely perfect is a pain in the ar5e! However, even in it's imperfect state it works and works well.
But no, they have to keep 'tweeking' it, and modifying it to get perfection.
2 years down the line I've lined up potential orders of over £4m yet the fecking engineers won't give me a finished product!

As I pointed out this morning, "the product might be so good that it can fly a fcking space shuttle, but if you don't finish it so I can't sell it, it's worth fck all!"

And breathe..................
 
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zagatoes30

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Morning all. Been in the office a few hours and already I want to kill someone!

I've finally come to the realisation that something I've worked long and *** (oooerr) and spent a small fortune (sale of my Maser) is becoming more and more of a pipe dream.
Getting engineers to settle on something that might not be absolutely perfect is a pain in the ar5e! However, even in it's imperfect state it works and works well.
But no, they have to keep 'tweeking' it, and modifying it to get perfection.
2 years down the line I've lined up potential orders of over £4m yet the fecking engineers won't give me a finished product!

As I pointed out this morning, "the product might be so good that it can fly a fcking space shuttle, but if you don't finish it so I can't sell it, it's worth fck all!"

And breathe..................

Who's funding the development work? If it's you they have no incentive to finish it - loads of great ideas sat on shelves due to over engineering killing the opportunity and then someone comes along sells a simple version and makes a killing
 

GeoffCapes

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Who's funding the development work? If it's you they have no incentive to finish it - loads of great ideas sat on shelves due to over engineering killing the opportunity and then someone comes along sells a simple version and makes a killing

I have been one of the funders. The engineers involved have an equity stake.
However, they are all comfortably off and I think see this as a 'bit on the side' to their normal job.

To them there is no real incentive to get things finalised. Which is what my reservation was at the start.

Myself and another guy have done the 'hard work' getting market interest, potential sales and large utility companies on board.
Yet the engineers are just pissing about making it better and better (so they say) yet installations should have started last October!!!!
How many have been done? Zero! ******* zero!

This is spot on "loads of great ideas sat on shelves due to over engineering killing the opportunity and then someone comes along sells a simple version and makes a killing".

And what will probably happen! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

RobinL

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You have hit the nail on the head I'm afraid. There has to be a date, quality, performance agreed for V1 to go live.

Get an acceptance of a V1 finished product and then they can be happy working on V1.1 or V2

Without this agreement then scope drift will continue forever so the next step is to decide a way forward to get that agreement in place.

Once you have that V1 framework you can then sort out V2 so it doesn't compete with V1 and can be sold as an upgrade if sufficiently different!

Reverse or internal marketing.....!

Failure to set the fixed parameters, agree acceptable deviations is the killer of most government estimates/budgets. MOD suppliers rely on scope creep to provide their profits!

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