This is so ridiculous that it is making me laugh !

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This was the only problem I ever had with my Jeep Grand Cherokee and I know of many others, with different makes of cars, who've had identical problems to those mentioned here. A common and effective preventative measure seems to be, to give the engine a good work out at least once a week, over a few dozen miles. Its LPG all the way for my daily driver and B100 in my pre DPF diesel Defenders henceforth!
 

Oneball

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It’s more about their maturing debts and capital requirements... CDS never really lie

Just because they’ve nicked a graph and some comments off Bloomberg doesn’t escape the fact that someone who’s stolen a fictional name is pretending to be a journalist and has no clue about the company they’re commenting on.
 

slay

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My Evoque has been spot on in 18 months and not missed a beat. I’ve got the later ingenium engine, are these issues with the previous engine as I did hear it was rubbish. The Ingenium came in 2016 I think.

Going Velar next time when my current lease is up
Unfortunately it is happening to the Ingenium engine, that is what I have - a 2016 Evoque.

I think the previous model just release the harmful diesel particles maybe ?

There you go, I think Diesel is a false economy unless you do enough mileage.
 

GeoffCapes

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There you go, I think Diesel is a false economy unless you do enough mileage.

You've hit the nail on the head.

If you do short journeys a small engined petrol car is what you need.
If you do long journeys a diesel is what you need.
If you wanna have fun you need a fast car with a big petrol engine!
 

whereskeith

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Just because they’ve nicked a graph and some comments off Bloomberg doesn’t escape the fact that someone who’s stolen a fictional name is pretending to be a journalist and has no clue about the company they’re commenting on.

maybe... maybe not..
 

Wattie

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My Evoque has been spot on in 18 months and not missed a beat. I’ve got the later ingenium engine, are these issues with the previous engine as I did hear it was rubbish. The Ingenium came in 2016 I think.

Going Velar next time when my current lease is up
I Drove a Velar recently and it was a very nice place to be.
The 3litre diesel was quiet and pretty quick too.
 

rockits

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I don't get the design and concept of a DPF exactly for the same reason I don't get the concept of burying our rubbish underground.

All we are doing is sweeping stuff under the carpet. The only way to deal with any issues like this is to treat the problem at source.

We keep tip toing round issues like this rather than tackling it head on. Climate change is another issue the same. Hard and fast is the only way to deal with it regardless of the pain it will cause.

A DPF.....let's take a polluting dirty engine technology that has been around 100 years and just box all the cr4p it kicks out up until a little metal box that we don't know what to do with or how to dispose of later. We will deal with that sh1t storm when it happens in 5 or 10 years!

Laughable!
 

alfatwo

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Just wait till your local town council gets up to speed with there camera plate recognition systems and start charging diesel drivers who drive through there patch!

It's already started in Rugby, there putting up camera's everywhere, Its easy money

I recon your done, in 18 months time the average diesel vehicle will be worthless!

Dave
 
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rivarama

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What I don’t get is that I put over 150k miles over 3 diesel SUVs: 2006 VW Touareg, 2009 BMW X5 and 2013 VW Touareg.
I never heard of the DPF issue until a taxi driver mentioned it to me last month. So clearly I never experienced any issue with it, and can not fault the German SUVs I had.
They have been spot on, and the only ££ I ever had to spend on outside normal service (and worn tyres) was a for a lose undercarriage heat plate that was rattling as it came lose, and that had to be replaced (£120 parts and labour)
 

rivarama

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Just wait till your local town council gets up to speed with there camera plate recognition systems and start charging diesel drivers who drive though there patch!

It's already started in Rugby, there putting up camera's everywhere, Its easy money

I recon your done, in 18 months time the average diesel vehicle will be worthless!

Dave

With all this, I am still wondering why 100% of JLR SUV engines are offered in diesel...
 

alfatwo

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With all this, I am still wondering why 100% of JLR SUV engines are offered in diesel...[/QUOTE

That's why 5,000 of there employee's just got the sack last month

JLR only ever made large vehicles for some reason... petrol or diesel, that nobody wants any more, especially diesels

They in hindsight should have put there resource's into a affordable medium size upmarket saloon petrol/electric hybrid

Dave
 

allandwf

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DPF removal was seen as an upgrade for a while, a bit like cat removal. I think they are part of mot now. I agree with the above though, it's just a box to catch the lumps.
 

dunnah01

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DPF removal was seen as an upgrade for a while, a bit like cat removal. I think they are part of mot now. I agree with the above though, it's just a box to catch the lumps.
DPFs catch the big lumps and then $h1t them out as little lumps in the countryside.
The bypass pipe just meant big lumps $h1t out anywhere which meant the new MOT Reg of no smoke from diseasels kiboshed them.
 

rockits

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What idiots dream this stuff up. Imagine all of us sitting round a table at the Ace discussing this issue. I'm sure we would come up with something far better than a DPF that collect the sh1te then dumps it with regeneration.