Wanted - 4200 / Coupe

2b1ask1

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That CatD GS is almost down to breaking money! Sounds like it was a victim of hydrolock.
 

FIFTY

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Ferraris are sought after in manual guise, ergo these models are, often down to rarity rather than being ‘better’. The manual 4200 is not ‘better’ than a Cambiocorsa. It is only my opinion, but a well researched one, coming from someone who’s driven 6 manuals and at least 150 Cambiocorsas.

Ok Dicky Ferraris are saught after Maseratis not

What about BMW M cars... Manual M5/M3 all sit above the prices of SMG even though seemingly the car was designed for the automated shifting

But its ok... The 4200 is better in whatever guise you and the rest of the experts command
 

midlifecrisis

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Not sure where you live, @JMW1968 but it might be worth just seeing some close by in the flesh not to buy but get a better feeling of what you're after. If you can, go for a GS, some 4200s are going to be 20 years old soon.
We've highlighted the faults that you can expect but ALL are fixable. The wealth of knowledge by here is second to none. You just have to find it!
 

Vampyrebat

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It's down to personal preference at the end of the day. I have never said the GT is better than the CC but I would never own one! Prior to my Maserati days I had 2 Audi S4 cabriolets. The first was a auto as I was impatient and couldn't find a manual, I hated it and kept it for 4 months before trading it for an identical manual one which I loved; but I'm not saying it was a better car!......Also. I favour rare cars (as my other 2 cars) and as Shoghi was saying; I do think that the price of the GT's shall stand the test of time better than the CC's even though they were the cheaper option when new!
 

jasst

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Never driven a paddle shift, so will see what it's like. Given the amount of ones around that are CC and are all substantially cheaper than the 2 manuals, I may change my mind!
I had never driven a paddle shift till my first 4200 6 years ago, wouldn't go back to a manual now.
 

mjheathcote

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Thanks Spartacus, understood. I have just been through restoring a couple of Triumph Stags and they too hate to sit around. They hate running too, but that's another story.

Now now.
Stag owner 35 years and counting....
 

Nibby

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Ok Dicky Ferraris are saught after Maseratis not

What about BMW M cars... Manual M5/M3 all sit above the prices of SMG even though seemingly the car was designed for the automated shifting

But its ok... The 4200 is better in whatever guise you and the rest of the experts command
Lovett's of Swindon said to my brother get a F430 F1 over a manual, no one wants a manual (more a case of they only had a cc in stock probably) unfortunately my brother listened to them,bad move. I bet there's quite a few Ferraris get there clock rewound just before MOT time as well.
This one went for $351000
 

Wack61

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Dash out job for the Matrix. If you are looking for a project it appears a good start.
When I had a leak under the dash voicey sent me a picture of a car he was changing the heater matrix in , I sold it a few weeks later :D , that's a big job

94238
 

Swedish Paul

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I had never driven a paddle shift till my first 4200 6 years ago, wouldn't go back to a manual now.
I have to admit that driving a 911 Turbo pdk recently, I immediately dropped into manual with paddles. Although you don’t have total control (revs/speed) I prefer me telling the car when to change.
 

JMW1968

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Now now.
Stag owner 35 years and counting....

Hi @mjheathcote!

You have helped me numerous times on the SOC Forum so please excuse my poor joke. I loved my Stags immensely and enjoyed working on them, especially through lockdown. The annoying part was all the poor quality reproduction parts and the hassle of returning them to the siblings, but that didn't take anything away from the joy of the cars.

Jeff
 

JMW1968

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Not sure where you live, @JMW1968 but it might be worth just seeing some close by in the flesh not to buy but get a better feeling of what you're after. If you can, go for a GS, some 4200s are going to be 20 years old soon.
We've highlighted the faults that you can expect but ALL are fixable. The wealth of knowledge by here is second to none. You just have to find it!
Thanks Martin and thanks all - looking forward to finding one and being an active member here.

Jeff
 

rockits

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I have been wobbling on selling mine which I never thought I would say. It is a very late 2007/07 car with 15k miles, one previous owner, never driven in the rain or seen a winter and always stored in a dehumidified garage under a soft OEM cover.

I'd confidently say it is one of the best out there and almost as new. Voicey has seen it many times the last few years so knows it well and will vouch for it. It drives spot on and is as perfect I think you'll find. I guess it depends on budget a d if you are looking for one of the best.

It will be right at the top end of your price range and I don't need to sell it per se and know it is almost a.perfect car. I'm just finding life has changed for me and I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I've always used it sparingly but regularly so has kept it in fantastic condition but always been used enough to keep it from causing issues. It has never had a thing wrong just routine tickle maintenance.

When I bought it nearly 7 years ago it was the best I could find by some margin and bought from the 1st owner who had it from new when it had only done 10k miles.

It has valved rear Larini back boxes and secondary decat, upgraded FD carbon fibre extended paddles, upgraded carbon fibre/leather OEM steering wheel, factory GS alloys powder coated grigio Mercury and suspension setup to match Gransport specs. It can easily be returned to stock but I felt these sympathetic upgrades have made the car better without ruining it.
It was featured in Modern Classics a few years back.

I need to get an MOT booked in and done also it's annual check/service. It has had an annual check/service every year since new so 13 services I think soon to be 14.
 

Ewan

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I have to admit that driving a 911 Turbo pdk recently, I immediately dropped into manual with paddles. Although you don’t have total control (revs/speed) I prefer me telling the car when to change.
That’s what‘s good about a CC car. You still have total control over the gears. It‘s a manual box, but you change gears by flipping a paddle instead of waving a stick. It’s as easy as driving an auto, but with the fun/control of an old fashioned stick shift. Best of both Worlds.
 

mjheathcote

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That’s what‘s good about a CC car. You still have total control over the gears. It‘s a manual box, but you change gears by flipping a paddle instead of waving a stick. It’s as easy as driving an auto, but with the fun/control of an old fashioned stick shift. Best of both Worlds.
Absolutely Ewan.
When you drive a paddle car with say 8 speeds, and many now an autobox (although a very good one) it just isn't the same.
As you say the CC really is changing the manual gearbox gear by a paddle instead of the gearstick.
Gordon Murray said the same, he would rather drive a single clutch paddle shift rather than a soleless DSG "I want to feel the mechanical change" I think his words were.
 

mjheathcote

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I have been wobbling on selling mine which I never thought I would say. It is a very late 2007/07 car with 15k miles, one previous owner, never driven in the rain or seen a winter and always stored in a dehumidified garage under a soft OEM cover.

I'd confidently say it is one of the best out there and almost as new. Voicey has seen it many times the last few years so knows it well and will vouch for it. It drives spot on and is as perfect I think you'll find. I guess it depends on budget a d if you are looking for one of the best.

It will be right at the top end of your price range and I don't need to sell it per se and know it is almost a.perfect car. I'm just finding life has changed for me and I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I've always used it sparingly but regularly so has kept it in fantastic condition but always been used enough to keep it from causing issues. It has never had a thing wrong just routine tickle maintenance.

When I bought it nearly 7 years ago it was the best I could find by some margin and bought from the 1st owner who had it from new when it had only done 10k miles.

It has valved rear Larini back boxes and secondary decat, upgraded FD carbon fibre extended paddles, upgraded carbon fibre/leather OEM steering wheel, factory GS alloys powder coated grigio Mercury and suspension setup to match Gransport specs. It can easily be returned to stock but I felt these sympathetic upgrades have made the car better without ruining it.
It was featured in Modern Classics a few years back.

I need to get an MOT booked in and done also it's annual check/service. It has had an annual check/service every year since new so 13 services I think soon to be 14.
With getting personally older, and the way cars are going EV, sometimes you must just think "fukc it" and simply drive and enjoy it and forget about the increasing mileage, especially as whatever the condition and mileage, the values aren't high.
Just look at the GS Dickie has just listed for sale.
Buy (or rent these days!) say a new M4, and you will have lost over only a few years the total purchase price of a mint 42/GS.
 

giorgio01

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I've driven both cc and manual and now I own manual plus I've built TVR Cerbera with 4.7 maserati engine mated to manual gearbox. There is so much more involvement, drama , pleasure you name it in driving manual that for me nothing can beat that.
 
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