Wanted - 4200 / Coupe

zagatoes30

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Dean's (Rockit) car is a stunner and probably one of the best 4200s out there, if it was me I would stretch to get the best I could find and this one would be top of my list
 

rockits

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With getting personally older, and the way cars are going EV, sometimes you must just think "fukc it" and simply drive and enjoy it and forget about the increasing mileage, especially as whatever the condition and mileage, the values aren't high.
Just look at the GS Dickie has just listed for sale.
Buy (or rent these days!) say a new M4, and you will have lost over only a few years the total purchase price of a mint 42/GS.
I do totally agree Mike and have got over the garage queen bit now and happy to use it more. You should do the same and just use and enjoy it. Life is too short to worry about such trivial things.

I have used my car as much as I could over the first 5 years I had it and have enjoyed it immensely. The last year or two the opportunities have been less for life reasons and I don't see this changing over the next year or two.

The last few years haven't been so easy for me and Covid has exaserbated this further. It makes much more sense for me to roll 3 cars into 1 more expensive more daily usable car which is my plan. It is hard to say what makes way but seems like then Outlander is a given to go. The next seems likely to be the XJL SuperSport which again I love to bits but I use it once a week now at most. I want to keep the TVR as it is so special and rare also so analogue therefore makes sense. So the 4200 is the next obvious choice to go.

It is weird to say but the 4200 is so usable/practical it is the very reason I use it less. I have better more suitable daily options that make more sense and with the TVR being a more extreme more bonkers analogue pure driving pleasure toy. So the 4200 is stuck in between for me and my circumstances.

If I didn't have what I have then I'm sure the 4200 would be used much more. So for someone else with different circumstances it really is a perfect option for many IMHO.

I have currently earmarked an Audi SQ7 Vorsprung as the likely 3 into 1 candidate but having a hard time justifying the cost of them even at 3 years old. I'm not tight but have never spent more than £26K on a car before. So getting my head over the line to spend pretty much double that has been a challenge
 

rockits

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Dean's (Rockit) car is a stunner and probably one of the best 4200s out there, if it was me I would stretch to get the best I could find and this one would be top of my list
Thanks Andy. It was the very reason I bought it originally as was the best I could find and seems good advice to me. It wasn't much more to buy the best I could find and has been good to me as nothing has gone wrong at all. Just basic routine servicing/maintenance to tickle it along each year.

Still has that almost new car feel and drives tight and spot on as new. I think as cars get much more expensive that gap between the worst and best examples tends to increase so the decision is harder. However at lower levels the difference is so much less a cheap example seems to be a fals economy to me. Not always of course as you can have poor low mileage garage queen examples also fantastic high mileage older examples.

On the CC/manual debate I'm aligned with Dicky. I've owned a few 4200's and one was a manual the rest CC. I've not driven a good manual but don't have any issues with the CC at all. I like and prefer it is not 'perfect' and more analogue in character as that it exactly what a manual should be. I agree in the main a sports car in manual form is preferred.

My opinion is the 4200 is not a sports car more a sporty GT also don't feel the manual in a 4200 is even close to the best manual car you'll find. Therefore feel the CC is the best manual 4200 you can buy which is why I did. Everybody is different and not right or wrong. Just opinions and preferences and I respect also appreciate them all.

I'm actually not a fan of most modern twin clutch boxes at all. The are too 'good', too sterile, too unengaging, too emotionless for me. It loses and aural sensation to me how they upshift but of course the downshifts are great. Of course it suits the new raft of silly modern silly too fast supercars these days as an average human can't keep up with manual stick shifts in cars that fast. The sweet spot for me is 400bhp and circa 5 secs to 60mph levels of performance. Anything quicker is wasted on me and superfluous IMHO.

That F136 engine at full tilt with the agressive CC shifts at the red line in paddle form is a thing of wonder and joy.
 
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Don't know it but things to note on the ad - cat D in 2015

Service history prior to 2018 is quite patchy (no service in 8 years between 2008 and 2016)
The state of the driver's seat bolster is appalling. Are the 61k miles genuine? The leather in mine is the same colour and before SportsItalia reconolised it at 110k miles, it was in far better condition than this car's.

The car looks to be quite neglected from looking at the photos so it's a no from me.
 

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The state of the driver's seat bolster is appalling. Are the 61k miles genuine? The leather in mine is the same colour and before SportsItalia reconolised it at 110k miles, it was in far better condition than this car's.

The car looks to be quite neglected from looking at the photos so it's a no from me.

It depends on the level of abuse the bolster received from the previous owner.

Think about it like this - if the previous owner was slightly larger, always wore jeans and squeezed themselves into the car via a small opening in the door because the car is in a small garage (hence rubbing near enough their entire body down the side of the seat to squeeze in) - then that bolster is going to get mullered pretty quickly.
 

Dovecote man

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Hi

I have been looking for a 4200 for a short while, but haven't really found one I like. I am puzzled by the prices and mileages, with some with 80,000 miles going for the same as some with 25,000. Also hard to tell what full service history means in reality etc etc.

Thought I would ask on here to see if anyone is planning on selling theirs. I just missed out on Matt82's lovely manual one, which was disappointing. I would prefer darker interior, would love a manual and well maintained.

Thanks
Jeff
Jeff.
I have a 4200 GT Manual. Full main agent service history. Facelift Model. Genuine 21300 miles. Supplied by Maranello. No mods. Only a bluetooth box for the stereo. Small mark on drivers side seat. Some minor scuffing on the alloys. Am selling as we are downsizing. Want £25500.00 for it.
I was looking for a nice example for years was fortunate to find this one. Will make a good investment and be a useable classic.
Mileages this low are becoming very rare.
I live in Lancashire. Tel no 07379 512523. Thanks. Peter.
 

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doodlebug

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It depends on the level of abuse the bolster received from the previous owner.

Think about it like this - if the previous owner was slightly larger, always wore jeans and squeezed themselves into the car via a small opening in the door because the car is in a small garage (hence rubbing near enough their entire body down the side of the seat to squeeze in) - then that bolster is going to get mullered pretty quickly.
I always wear jeans, but I'm not a fat ******* and squeeze myself into the driver's seat in my excessively large garage.
Does that count?
 

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I've driven both cc and manual and now I own manual plus I've built TVR Cerbera with 4.7 maserati engine mated to manual gearbox. There is so much more involvement, drama , pleasure you name it in driving manual that for me nothing can beat that.
What did become of that cerbera of yours, did you end up getting a decent price for it?
 

rockits

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What did become of that cerbera of yours, did you end up getting a decent price for it?
Funny you should say that as been talking TVR's on PH today and saw it advertised for sale on a site. I think it was £54k which personally seems strong money. I know it would have cost a lot of time and money but in the TVR world that is strong money.