1600 GT Junior

lifes2short

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Morning all.

Need a bit of a bit of advice from anyone in the know.

I'm looking at importing a 1973 GT Junior in to the UK from Italy.
It was a track car and has no Italian registration, it's a matching numbers car and owner has the official Alfa Romeo Historique Certificate confirming all the numbers, build date etc etc.

Would anyone know how easy/hard it would be to register it in the UK, if at all
 

zagatoes30

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For a 105 you need to talk to Stuart Talyor of the 105 register in the UK he is a lovely guy and knows everything there is to know about 105s including getting them registered. It use to be relatively easy although non-road registration made it a bit harder to confirm all the build details but if you had the Historique Certificate that made it easier however Brexit and new duty regulations made it a lot harder
 

safrane

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Article in this months Classic and Sports Car about the dreadful time the DVLA are giving people who are trying to do as the OP.

So many forced to have Q plates and some having to scrap thier modified cars.

Even the Courts appear to be unable to get them to play ball.
 

philw696

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Morning all.

Need a bit of a bit of advice from anyone in the know.

I'm looking at importing a 1973 GT Junior in to the UK from Italy.
It was a track car and has no Italian registration, it's a matching numbers car and owner has the official Alfa Romeo Historique Certificate confirming all the numbers, build date etc etc.

Would anyone know how easy/hard it would be to register it in the UK, if at all
Sent you a message mate.
 

Oneball

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are you sure, the last import i had about 6/7years ago was compulsory to mot, have things changed since then ?
I did one 2 years ago, if it’s over 45 years old you just fill in the MOT exempt form and you don’t need to provide proof of insurance either.

I’m actually just doing one for my new toy as well.
 

lifes2short

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I did one 2 years ago, if it’s over 45 years old you just fill in the MOT exempt form and you don’t need to provide proof of insurance either.

I’m actually just doing one for my new toy as well.
ok thanks, i think i remember doing a NOVA years ago, but looking on line now it's some other form if its a private non vat registered individual importing it, any pointers ?

what's the new toy or is it top secret
 

Oneball

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You need to do NOVA first with HMRC. Then send the NOVA certificate to DVLA with your registration application.

Usually your shipper will deal with HMRC but if you’ve done it privately you’ll have to do it yourself.

Once you got NOVA it’s usually pretty straightforward when you got a title/registration but your going to need something from a DVLA approved club saying what the car is and it’s age.
 

lifes2short

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extract below from the .gov site, under private individual it does state that HMRC will make the NOVA notification on behalf of the private importer after the individual makes an import declaration, are you dealing with it as a private importer ??


If you’re a VAT-registered company​

You must tell HMRC about the imported vehicle by using the Notification of Vehicle Arrivals (NOVA) service within 14 days. You can use a spreadsheet if you need to use NOVA for lots of vehicles.

You may be able to delay making an import declaration if you import a vehicle from Ireland. This is called a delayed declaration.
If you’re unable to use the NOVA online service, ask the Imports and exports helpline for a VAT NOVA1 form.

For help completing a NOVA application, contact the HMRC Personal Transport Unit.

If you’re a non-VAT registered company or private individual​

HMRC will make a NOVA application for you, but you will need to make an import declaration and send it to HMRC by email.

You can also get an agent such as a freight forwarder to make an import declaration for you. They may make the NOVA application for you as well.
Your vehicle needs to be added to the NOVA system before you can register it with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA). Email the following to the HMRC CARS team so that HMRC can make your NOVA application:

  • the C88/E2 customs documents for your vehicle (except if you brought your vehicle into the UK through the Channel Tunnel or by ferry)
  • the invoice or bill of sale for your vehicle, or a current valuation from a third-party such as a garage or dealership in the UK (it cannot be an online valuation)
  • any official document which confirms the VIN or chassis number of your vehicle (for example, a registration or title document, or an export certificate)
HMRC CARS team
ecsm.nchcars@hmrc.gov.uk
 

Oneball

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My shipper did it for me but it’s still the same as a private individual, it’s just you don’t have access to the NOVA computer system. You still need to go through the process as a private individual its just the HMRC that actually uses the NOVA system. You must notify them of an import within 14 days. You’re going to have a paperwork issue. But tell them you’ve imported a car and go from there.