2005 Maserati Quattroporte - Sell or swap?

ChrisNico

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Hello all.

I was planning on keeping my fantastic 87,000 mile 2005 QP for many years to come, but the **** ULEZ expansion in London has forced me to rethink this! A 2006 QP is ULEZ compatible, but mine is not, and Maserati confirmed that it would be prohibitively expensive to change the necessary parts to make it compatible. As such, driving the car 3-4 times/week will cost me £2K to £2.5K every year which is maddening!!

It’s so frustrating because I’ve spent over £15K in the last 15 months, fixing virtually all the major things that go wrong with these beautiful machines. I have owned this beauty for just under 5 years, and no expense has been spared.

Just under £11K was spent with the amazing SportsItalia who carried out the majority of the work, including the following, between December 2020 and June 2021:

New clutch, replacement torque tube, gearbox actuator repair, new engine mounts, suspension bushes, subframe welded and powder coated along with rust proofing of entire underside, etc. I can, of course, provide invoices to verify all these expenses.

Previous to this work, GVE fitted a new ABS pump/ECU and brake servo/master cylinder in August 2020. The F1 pump and pipes were also replaced not long before this.

I have two choices. Either I accept this extra tax, and maybe drive the car less, or I sell/swap for a later ULEZ compatible car. The advantage of my 2005 car over a 2006 (and onwards) car is that the road tax is £340 instead of £600, so it’s perfect for someone who doesn’t live in London!

If anyone here is considering a 2005 QP in what I believe is the best colour combination - Grigio Alfieri and light tan interior - I would consider selling it, but would not take less than £15K, bearing in mind the recent expenditure on so many of the major things that go wrong with these cars. The car should be much more affordable from this point on. She is now also parked underground.

I would also consider a part exchange with a newer ULEZ compatible car, duo select/auto, or possibly even a Gran Turismo, now that I’m not ferrying kids around anymore!

~Chris
 

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ChrisNico

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Nice car.
Sell up in London, if you buy a newer Maserati it won’t be long before that is effectively banned too.
Move to the countryside (or anywhere that’s not London) with the proceeds to a house with a nice heated garage!

Hahah :) The crazy thing is I live within 500m of the North Circular, but it makes no difference. The **** cameras catch me joining the North Circular and 'ka-ching' - £12.50!! I would dearly love to move further out one day, or leave this **** cold country, but I have 3 daughters and a granddaughter in London that still 'need' me. Oh well, I might just have to use the **** Prius for all drives apart from my weekend trips to my girlfriend in St Albans ;)
 

Tallman

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Lovely car though, hadn’t seen that combo yet. With all the important bits done this would be a great long term car for someone. Hope it pans out for you!
 

rs48635

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Seems odd that my 2006 is ulez compliant - what changed ? This is still 4.2 with DS gearbox.
Did Maserati really make emissions effort to suit EURO regulations?
Not really keen to swap as I am a bit attached to my car.
 

ChrisNico

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Seems odd that my 2006 is ulez compliant - what changed ? This is still 4.2 with DS gearbox.
Did Maserati really make emissions effort to suit EURO regulations?
Not really keen to swap as I am a bit attached to my car.

I asked the same question here last year. Seems Maserati made many changes to make the 2006 model Euro 4 compliant, which my one isn't...
 

Motorsport3

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I am like you in London with a 2005 QPV and having gone through the same process of updating everything that needed attention I'm also finding it prohibitive to drive into central London. But in fairness I don't mind that much as I live right outside the lower circular and only use it to head further out which is really where this car should be driven anyway.
 

Wack61

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As said above , they're on euro 6 petrol engines now , it won't be long before euro 4 gets spat out of the system
Either sell it and buy something euro 6 or suck it up and pay it , not worth changing , especially as the QP is such a minefield , the 2.5k a year could be buttons if you're back at square one with the bills on a newer car
 

Mattp

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I wondered what changed too... You get the cheap tax - 2006 onward is £660 a year, but we get the 2 year service interval...
Engine looks the same, produces the same power, most of the parts I've seen are the same...
 

Ozmurc

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Hello all.

I was planning on keeping my fantastic 87,000 mile 2005 QP for many years to come, but the **** ULEZ expansion in London has forced me to rethink this! A 2006 QP is ULEZ compatible, but mine is not, and Maserati confirmed that it would be prohibitively expensive to change the necessary parts to make it compatible. As such, driving the car 3-4 times/week will cost me £2K to £2.5K every year which is maddening!!

It’s so frustrating because I’ve spent over £15K in the last 15 months, fixing virtually all the major things that go wrong with these beautiful machines. I have owned this beauty for just under 5 years, and no expense has been spared.

Just under £11K was spent with the amazing SportsItalia who carried out the majority of the work, including the following, between December 2020 and June 2021:

New clutch, replacement torque tube, gearbox actuator repair, new engine mounts, suspension bushes, subframe welded and powder coated along with rust proofing of entire underside, etc. I can, of course, provide invoices to verify all these expenses.

Previous to this work, GVE fitted a new ABS pump/ECU and brake servo/master cylinder in August 2020. The F1 pump and pipes were also replaced not long before this.

I have two choices. Either I accept this extra tax, and maybe drive the car less, or I sell/swap for a later ULEZ compatible car. The advantage of my 2005 car over a 2006 (and onwards) car is that the road tax is £340 instead of £600, so it’s perfect for someone who doesn’t live in London!

If anyone here is considering a 2005 QP in what I believe is the best colour combination - Grigio Alfieri and light tan interior - I would consider selling it, but would not take less than £15K, bearing in mind the recent expenditure on so many of the major things that go wrong with these cars. The car should be much more affordable from this point on. She is now also parked underground.

I would also consider a part exchange with a newer ULEZ compatible car, duo select/auto, or possibly even a Gran Turismo, now that I’m not ferrying kids around anymore!

~Chris
I know its an older thread, but I'm in a similar boat.. and been driving for two years paying the ULEZ. Who did you talk to at Maserati? There may be a possibility that the Euro 3 Nix levels are actually low enough to qualify for an exemption but requires a letter from Maserati. It would be easier if I could contact someone with some knowledge of the changes made between the 05 & 06.
 

Belfry

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My 2000 Porsche C4 was not originally listed as ULEZ compliant, but I discovered that the emissions were low enough to create an exception.

I contacted Porsche UK who sent me the Certificate of Conformity for my car, which shows that it meets the standards to be exempted from ULEZ. I had to sent TFL to proof and they created an exemption for my car. This is not automatic and you do need to apply for the exemption based on emissions.

Might be worth investigating, especially after to effort you have put into getting your car just right?
 

Motorsport3

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My 2000 Porsche C4 was not originally listed as ULEZ compliant, but I discovered that the emissions were low enough to create an exception.

I contacted Porsche UK who sent me the Certificate of Conformity for my car, which shows that it meets the standards to be exempted from ULEZ. I had to sent TFL to proof and they created an exemption for my car. This is not automatic and you do need to apply for the exemption based on emissions.

Might be worth investigating, especially after to effort you have put into getting your car just right?
I found the following article:


Basically saying that the binding metric is NOx has to be less than 0.08g/km.

Is that consistent with your experience?