Advice on purchase - Potential New Owner

Diab2005

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Your getting all the information so you need to experience them in the flesh and you will know.
If you like driving and smiling at the same time its F1 but the auto box is brilliantly suited to a large GT.
Spend less get a really good 4200 variant and keep some cash spare.
The one with the dry sump engine :)

I certainly do mate otherwise I wouldn't be considering a car like this. To be honest the 4.2 was where I started but then I heard they felt lacking in power as for the 4200 I'm not really feeling the look if I'm honest ....personal opinion


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Diab2005

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After coming from the 350z forum I didn't think I'd find another as helpful...I've gotta say I was wrong! Nice one


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Andyk

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Is Richard G the guy in Chester as I'm from Liverpool? What did you do in the end then? Did you take the plunge? How did things work out???


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Yes that's Dicky Grace...worth a call to him. Well respected.
 

Andyk

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Wow with figures like that I think I'd best go for the Cayman. I don't think I could afford to pay 3-4K for variators that's a big hit...I feel a bit downhearted now


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The black car with red has the variators already done and a new clutch....8k just spend so the big costs done already but these are not cheap cars to run.
 

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Diab, I am only visiting there this weekend, it's weird you are down my neck of the woods and I am up there, you want a job swap? :D

Anyway, if you are still down Sarf on Sunday then pop over as I will be back in Berkshire then. Go see Dicky if that isn't going to work, he is a mine of useless information :D
 

Diab2005

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Diab, I am only visiting there this weekend, it's weird you are down my neck of the woods and I am up there, you want a job swap? :D

Anyway, if you are still down Sarf on Sunday then pop over as I will be back in Berkshire then. Go see Dicky if that isn't going to work, he is a mine of useless information :D

Typical haha! I'll see what distance you are from me maybe I can stop off on the long drive home


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Diab2005

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The black car with red has the variators already done and a new clutch....8k just spend so the big costs done already but these are not cheap cars to run.

Yep aware they aren't "cheap" mate but as you say if the biggies are done then that's prob the way to go if I don't have loads of expendable income


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Ewan

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From what you are coming out of, and your other mentioned option, I don't think you'll want a 4.2 or an auto. You'll need the full fat "S" and the MC-Shift gearbox. Locate the nearest to your budget and get bartering. Money has never been cheaper to borrow, so crack on while you can.
 

Diab2005

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From what you are coming out of, and your other mentioned option, I don't think you'll want a 4.2 or an auto. You'll need the full fat "S" and the MC-Shift gearbox. Locate the nearest to your budget and get bartering. Money has never been cheaper to borrow, so crack on while you can.

My bartering skills are definitely going to have to be on point haha


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Potenza3200

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If you're concerned about fuel costs I would recommend you seriously consider whether this is the car for you. Fuel will be the least of your ownership cost issues. You will need to budget an average c.£3k per year for servicing and repairs for a Maserati. I've spent £6k on my GranSport since last May and it still has a misfire to solve. My most expensive year of ownership, but it gives you an indication.

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Wattie

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From what you are coming out of, and your other mentioned option, I don't think you'll want a 4.2 or an auto. You'll need the full fat "S" and the MC-Shift gearbox. Locate the nearest to your budget and get bartering. Money has never been cheaper to borrow, so crack on while you can.
That was my assessment too.
Cheers Wattie
 

BuckRog64

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As someone who has recently sold a Porsche and who will be buying a Maser at some stage my assessment is as follows.
. The Caymen is more of a drivers car (it's smaller and lighter, it's a proper sports car, more agile, and has option of a proper manual gearbox) and costs way less to run. Something you will jump into every time, enjoy, and not worry about.
. The Maser has soul that no German car can replicate. It will make your hairs stand on end. You have to own a pedigree Italian car to understand this. It's so much more than well designed and put together bits of steel. I remember many years ago test driving a new 350Z and thinking this is nice. Then got back in my Alfa GTV, listened to the glorious V6 (yes the engine rather than the Zs computer tuned exhaust), pulled away and soon apologised to her for even considering the change.
. The caymen is a "head" purchase, the Maser from the heart.
. The Maser is a dumbed down Ferrari, but from reading all the issues raised on this forum appears to have full fat Ferrari running costs.
. Most on here say MC Shift the way to go, which I'm still struggling with as GTS is a very big heavy car and thus a GT which to my mind an auto box is better suited. But I haven't tried an MC Shift yet and the auto I test drove, even with the Sport pack and quicker shifts, still felt a little remote.
. Red trim, esp. inc. stg wheel, is love or hate and, as Mr Grace says, is probably why that car has been for sale for a very long while. Give it a miss unless you intend keeping car long term, in which case it might be a good buy.
 

CatmanV2

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As someone who has recently sold a Porsche and who will be buying a Maser at some stage my assessment is as follows.
. The Caymen is more of a drivers car (it's smaller and lighter, it's a proper sports car, more agile, and has option of a proper manual gearbox) and costs way less to run. Something you will jump into every time, enjoy, and not worry about.
. The Maser has soul that no German car can replicate. It will make your hairs stand on end. You have to own a pedigree Italian car to understand this. It's so much more than well designed and put together bits of steel. I remember many years ago test driving a new 350Z and thinking this is nice. Then got back in my Alfa GTV, listened to the glorious V6 (yes the engine rather than the Zs computer tuned exhaust), pulled away and soon apologised to her for even considering the change.
. The caymen is a "head" purchase, the Maser from the heart.
. The Maser is a dumbed down Ferrari, but from reading all the issues raised on this forum appears to have full fat Ferrari running costs.
. Most on here say MC Shift the way to go, which I'm still struggling with as GTS is a very big heavy car and thus a GT which to my mind an auto box is better suited. But I haven't tried an MC Shift yet and the auto I test drove, even with the Sport pack and quicker shifts, still felt a little remote.
. Red trim, esp. inc. stg wheel, is love or hate and, as Mr Grace says, is probably why that car has been for sale for a very long while. Give it a miss unless you intend keeping car long term, in which case it might be a good buy.

Mine's parked outside. I've found myself peering out of the window at least 4 times this evening just to look at it. It is a big heavy car. Stick it in manual and keep the revs >2.5k and a *LOT* of the size simply vanishes. I don't think dumbed down Ferrari is fair. It's different.

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BuckRog64

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No offence intended. By "dumbed down" I'm saying the car has Ferrari genes but designed and tuned for a wider market that enabled it to be sold for much less than the price of any Ferrari. However, despite 2 year service intervals, it does seem to cost as much to maintain as the Ferrari I used to own.
 

CatmanV2

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No offence taken. I think this thread has had something of a negative portrayal of running costs. My 4200, for example, cost me nothing more than reasonable servicing, plus another faults that I was aware of.

Further, even if it *does* cost as much as a Ferrari to maintain, what of it? The implication (and really no offence taken) is that it *shouldn't* cost as much. Why? They are bloody awesome cars and in many ways (again limited experience) useable in many more circumstances than an equivalent F-car. Many other cars will cost the same, and lots will also cost more. I recall looking at the running costs of the Bentley GT

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philw696

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Having gone down the Ferrari route twice you have to keep the car serviced by Ferrari to keep it desirable when selling unless your going to sell it to someone through a recognized Indy from my experience.
This is because of the cyberspace experts who have never owned one but know it all.
 

BuckRog64

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These conversations would be so much easier round the table with a beer. I'm highlighting to the author of this thread that he can buy a GTS for Caymen money but it will cost him closer to Ferrari money to run. A consideration when making a buying choice.

I'm with you. I've had some great fast German cars and a couple of Italian ones. I'm on this forum because it gets me one step closer to Maserati ownership, which is where I intend to be.