Buying 3200GT AC advice

allandwf

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So, interesting... I discussed with the dealership, there is only one dealer (who is the importer as well) and they told me that only two were sold to Greece. They knew that there was a third AC in Greece (because of the services) which is the one that I am getting and was imported from Germany, but they didn't know of any others.

I believe that someone make it by himself perhaps and uploaded somewhere.

Anyway thank you for sharing it with me!
Possibly, but that was taken from a Greek car a good few years ago. Whatever it doesn't really matter we are all custodians of a rare piece of Maserati history.
 

Danny

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I received confirmation from Maserati Classiche (back in 2012) that the number of Assetto Corsas officially sold in Greece was just 1...

Congrats with your purchase. I also own a German AC (44 were officially sold in Germany)
 
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jluis

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Congratulations on your purchase, I also have a 3200 AC which doesn’t have the numbered plate in the glove box as it was sold in Belgium. You should check what that service for 1k contains because in genuine parts alone, it will cost more than that for the belt, tensioner, water pump and idler bearings.
 

Tallman

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Thank you Allan, the car is a confirmed AC, the dealership confirmed it, they just can’t give me further details in regards to the special customizations. They could only tell me that it is an AC, Nero metallic and Grigio interior.
You can contact Maserati at info@maserati.com to ask the spec of your car - they may ask for some registration documents to prove you are the owner. They helped me very speedily - I was dealing with Silvia di Bari. They can probably also confirm it is an AC and then you know 100%for sure and have some documentation to prove it in case you ever want to sell it. Worth the trouble.
 

Potakas

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Hello Everyone,

I finally got it yesterday and today I dropped it at the Maserati dealership. The good news are that the car is exactly as advertised, original paint, kilometres, condition. I will continue this thread and I will update you in regards to the costs of bringing it to a perfect condition.

First, let me tell about about the history of the car, the car was sold new in Germany on the 2/2002, it did 10k kms the first year, 10 the following two years and another 10k kms on 2006, serviced on the official Maserati/Ferrari dealership there. Then the car was imported in Greece on 2007 with 29k kms and the owner kept it there until yesterday on a small island (he had underground garage). In total the car did 9k kms during these years and was never serviced from Maserati, he had his own engineer that was ordering the parts from Maserati to do the fluid changes etc. Amazingly the car was still wearing the Pzero Corsa with 2001 date of construction. The fact that the tyres were not slicks even after so many years, brought a smile to me.

The car hasn't moved for the last three years at all because sadly the owner passed away. His family just now decided to sell it. Today I had a thorough discussion at the Maserati dealership and what they told me was that they sold 1 AC and they were aware of another two that were in Greece (one is mine), sadly the other two crashed and written off.

As you can imagine a car that hasn't moved for so long has many issues, today they checked the car and unfortunately I will have to replace the front wishbones (not sure if they still exist at Maserati) and in general almost all the parts that "move", the wishbones on the back are fine.

Apart from that, nothing major was noted, the crank issue has not affected the car yet (manual) and all the electronics work properly.

Attached are some photos of the car from yesterday when I got it (was not washed for at least 3 years).

I will also keep updating you for the costs since I am curious to see what this is compared to the UK, I suspect that the major expense in UK is the labour which I expect to be much less here in Greece.

Thank you for the advices both on this thread and on the rest of the forum.

BTW, I went for Pzero tires, the Corsa ones are not available on this size and I prefer them ( as a brand) from Michelin or Goodyear, Bridgestone etc. I hope my choice is good, either way I am not gonna track the car.
 

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Danny

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Nice story on your AC, it almost sounds like a barnfind. I once purchased a 15 year old 911 with just 17.000 km on the odometer and that car was also still on its original tyres. It smelled like only a new Porsche can smell (delicious!).

Your AC looks VERY similar to my AC (except for the colour of the steering wheel), which is also a Germany delivered car. See pic. Is your car also nero carbonio metallizzato?

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allandwf

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Hello Everyone,

I finally got it yesterday and today I dropped it at the Maserati dealership. The good news are that the car is exactly as advertised, original paint, kilometres, condition. I will continue this thread and I will update you in regards to the costs of bringing it to a perfect condition.

First, let me tell about about the history of the car, the car was sold new in Germany on the 2/2002, it did 10k kms the first year, 10 the following two years and another 10k kms on 2006, serviced on the official Maserati/Ferrari dealership there. Then the car was imported in Greece on 2007 with 29k kms and the owner kept it there until yesterday on a small island (he had underground garage). In total the car did 9k kms during these years and was never serviced from Maserati, he had his own engineer that was ordering the parts from Maserati to do the fluid changes etc. Amazingly the car was still wearing the Pzero Corsa with 2001 date of construction. The fact that the tyres were not slicks even after so many years, brought a smile to me.

The car hasn't moved for the last three years at all because sadly the owner passed away. His family just now decided to sell it. Today I had a thorough discussion at the Maserati dealership and what they told me was that they sold 1 AC and they were aware of another two that were in Greece (one is mine), sadly the other two crashed and written off.

As you can imagine a car that hasn't moved for so long has many issues, today they checked the car and unfortunately I will have to replace the front wishbones (not sure if they still exist at Maserati) and in general almost all the parts that "move", the wishbones on the back are fine.

Apart from that, nothing major was noted, the crank issue has not affected the car yet (manual) and all the electronics work properly.

Attached are some photos of the car from yesterday when I got it (was not washed for at least 3 years).

I will also keep updating you for the costs since I am curious to see what this is compared to the UK, I suspect that the major expense in UK is the labour which I expect to be much less here in Greece.

Thank you for the advices both on this thread and on the rest of the forum.

BTW, I went for Pzero tires, the Corsa ones are not available on this size and I prefer them ( as a brand) from Michelin or Goodyear, Bridgestone etc. I hope my choice is good, either way I am not gonna track the car.
Excellent, lovely looking car, you are now it's custodian. Hopefully lots of trouble free times ahead. I love mine, also a manual, and I'm in the process of giving her some overdue tlc. Feel free to ask any questions as I can always check against mine as it is also a manual.
 

Potakas

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So, from all the parts that the car need to be replaced only two are not available in Maserati Italy, the first one is the water pump and the second one is the pair of the front wishbones (ball joints), regarding the wishbones I've read many things on the forum but I understand that there is not a standard way to solve it, I saw that A.S. motorsport tried to create something but it is only for the rear suspension. At the same time I don't really feel comfortable on buying parts which are not "original" (even if that means that perhaps are better).

Do you know any sites that perhaps still sell genuine Maserati parts?

Thanks
 

Zep

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So, from all the parts that the car need to be replaced only two are not available in Maserati Italy, the first one is the water pump and the second one is the pair of the front wishbones (ball joints), regarding the wishbones I've read many things on the forum but I understand that there is not a standard way to solve it, I saw that A.S. motorsport tried to create something but it is only for the rear suspension. At the same time I don't really feel comfortable on buying parts which are not "original" (even if that means that perhaps are better).

Do you know any sites that perhaps still sell genuine Maserati parts?

Thanks

AS Motorsport will do all of the suspension arms, not just the rear. There are other sources for OEM if you can find them and are willing to pay.

David Askew refurbishes the water pumps. If you search for 3200 water pump you’ll find the posts.
 

Potakas

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VPS can rebuild the control arms.
Thank you, I already sent an email to check with them. Can I ask if anyone has used them in the past?
 

gemini

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A few of our french members (on maseratitude) already used their service.
It looks perfect to me.

Bras de suspension.jpeg

There are quite well knowed in the lamborghini world too, they refurb the control arms of the gallardo (it seems it's a weak point too).
You don't need to refurb all the arms, they can make an offer for one or two (but if it was for me, and certainly for an Assetto Corsa, I would do all the set for peace of mind).
 

Potakas

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A few of our french members (on maseratitude) already used their service.
It looks perfect to me.

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There are quite well knowed in the lamborghini world too, they refurb the control arms of the gallardo (it seems it's a weak point too).
You don't need to refurb all the arms, they can make an offer for one or two (but if it was for me, and certainly for an Assetto Corsa, I would do all the set for peace of mind).
Thank you, yes of course, if I proceed with them, I will do all of them, I just may not want them repainted, I want to keep the original paint on. Surely the photo above looks great.
 

Potakas

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If anyone could advise on the below I would be extremely happy, unfortunately the previous owner had changed the exhaust back boxes and I was thinking about buying the originals, in order to have the car sound as it should and have everything on order. However, I was very disappointed to learn that the pair costs 3k Euros, while some very good branded aftermarket cost perhaps the half of it.

On the one hand we have the Tubi exhaust system at 2k Euro and on the other hand we have Larini at 1,5k pounds.

My major hesitation, apart from the fact that I am altering the original sound, is that I don't want the car to become extremely loud and lose its "class", has anyone here ever had any of those two fitted or heard them on the street to comment?

Thank you
 

Zep

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Because of the effect of the turbos you have to straight pipe a 3200 to make it excessively loud (although it’s subjective of course). There are lots of threads on this, search 3200 back boxes.
 

Ewan

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I’d go Tubi, as at least they are made in Modena and good quality. They will sound good, but it won’t be annoyingly loud.