Certification

Marco07

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I received an invitation to submit my car to Maserati for certification.

Here are the details:

many thanks for your request, we are pleased about your interest related to our activities. We would be more than happy to certificate your Maserati Biturbo Spyder.


A certificate of authenticity will be implemented for Maserati road cars over 20 years of age, as well as to limited-series cars irrespective of their age.

The Certification is guaranteed by a Certification Committee made up of internal classic Maserati experts.

All the certification activities must be provided by us, in Maserati Modena, by Maserati Classiche personnel.



Many aspects will be verified during the certification process:

· 300 technical checks.

· Oil analysis check.

· Engine compression test.

· Exhaust gas analysis.

· Combustion chamber endoscope check.

· Chassis dimensional check (upon req.).

Through our official supplier, the car can be shipped to Maserati, back home for the certification tasks. In case are you are interested, in Belgium is a Maserati enthusiast that organizes cars for the certification. Always a group of six cars on a special truck, last year two deliveries, end of this week another one.



At the end of the procedure, we'll release a specific documentation composed by a series of items that are supporting the authenticity of the car:

· Certification of Authenticity.

· Certificate of technical and aesthetic characteristics.

· A true copy of the original Tridente drawing.

· Report-book of all the verifications made on the car.

· Specific Badge Maserati Classiche with the certification number.

· Specific certification badge to be applied on the car.

The Certification pricing for your Maserati Biturbo Spyder is 2.000€ VAT not included.



Don't hesitate to ask if something is unclear.

I am looking forward to your reply.
 

allandwf

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Interesting, and I'm sure those with high ticket priced classics will find that the certificate is essential. Personally I don't think the price is too bad, but what if they don't issue a certificate for whatever reason?
 

sionie1

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Seems a fair price - you can also drive it 'home' as they say. That'd be my preferred choice, make a trip out of it. What are the 'limited series cars irrespective of age' the certification refers to?
 

sionie1

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I agree. Not a lot of money when you consider the work involved. I wonder if it adds much to the value?
You'd like to think that it would, some models more than others, but if I was looking at purchasing a model covered by the scheme I'd probably be willing to pay a premium for a car with Classiche Certification.
 

Ewan

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Minor issue - if you ship the car there and back via their transport company in Belgium it adds about EUR 2.5k to the cost (though the chap that runs that business is great, and a proper Maseratisti). And they need the car for quite a while - it’s not a “while you wait” thing! Plus, you‘ll need to go through the car in advance with a specialist (such as McGrath) to check its perfect and all original (not painted a different colour, or wrong interior, upgraded parts, etc.) No point in going and failing, after all.

Financially, for a car like yours or mine, it costs way more than it adds. But it’s not really about that. It’s about pride in ownership, originality, and preserving the Maserati heritage.

I’ve chatted to them about doing this for my current QP IV. It‘s now a case of working out how to get the car there for a few weeks, and back, without it costing an arm and a leg. If it helps that we do it together to save transport cost, I’m in.
 

Marco07

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I’ve driven to Modena in my Biturbo twice already so would just deliver it, enjoy yet another factory tour, and fly home.

But I’ve upgraded so many parts that I’d need to talk with them first to make sure I’m not wasting my time. As you say, it’s not about adding value especially but it would be a great thing to do.

I wonder if they have a scale of charges for different models? I suspect they do.

Let me know what you decide, Ewan.
 

Swedish Paul

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I’ve driven to Modena in my Biturbo twice already so would just deliver it, enjoy yet another factory tour, and fly home.

But I’ve upgraded so many parts that I’d need to talk with them first to make sure I’m not wasting my time. As you say, it’s not about adding value especially but it would be a great thing to do.

I wonder if they have a scale of charges for different models? I suspect they do.

Let me know what you decide, Ewan.
I heard a story about an old Ferrari, can’t remember which model, but it needed a new fuel tank. Ferrari didn’t have them, and weren’t going to make any. So they had one made, and then it failed the certification.
If Maserati take the same approach..,,
 

lozcb

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Nothing wrong with a bit of elitism within a club , almost a club within a club so to speak ,we all aim to achieve to be different in some shape or form, similar to being the only gay in the village .....or on the other hand being trans ......just saying :whistle: badges are made specifically to be worn
 

midlifecrisis

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Nothing wrong with a bit of elitism within a club , almost a club within a club so to speak ,we all aim to achieve to be different in some shape or form, similar to being the only gay in the village .....or on the other hand being trans ......just saying :whistle: badges are made specifically to be worn
There's the Red Trouser Brigade and then there's the Very Red Trouser Brigade. Which do you self identify as? :thumb3:
 

del mar 2

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What would you hope to achieve by this ?

These are 20 plus year old cars now, which have had limited spares availability for years. They ran out of Cup exhausts years ago so i am guessing mine would fail straight away. Meridian Modena had no lambda sensors or oil filters

What are they hoping to prove with an Oil Analysis and combustion chamber check ?
 

midlifecrisis

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What would you hope to achieve by this ?

These are 20 plus year old cars now, which have had limited spares availability for years. They ran out of Cup exhausts years ago so i am guessing mine would fail straight away. Meridian Modena had no lambda sensors or oil filters

What are they hoping to prove with an Oil Analysis and combustion chamber check ?
Oil Analysis tells you a lot about the wear of an engine and also water content of the oil. It's a bit like you going for a medical and getting your blood tested for sugar, cholesterol, alcohol levels.
 

conaero

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So €2k plus €2.5k to ship it....anyone nervous about their report potentially saying you need to spend €16k or something ridiculous to fix it so we can issue the certificate???
 

lozcb

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There,s a price to pay to be a club within a club , nobody said it was cheap , I think we ought to start our own certification .......it would have more meaning and relevancy here in the UK to potential buyers , now thats the sort of badge I could wear
 
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del mar 2

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Oil Analysis tells you a lot about the wear of an engine and also water content of the oil. It's a bit like you going for a medical and getting your blood tested for sugar, cholesterol, alcohol levels.

So on the day of the test the engine was ok........

I cant help but think this is a way to extract money from owners, but it does appear to work very well in the Ferrari world.
 

DLax69

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So on the day of the test the engine was ok........

I cant help but think this is a way to extract money from owners, but it does appear to work very well in the Ferrari world.
Not to be paranoid, but this can also be seen as a mercenary data collection exercise...