Granturismo S Tyre Choices?

[bigbob]

That's my experience. Plus the fronts and rears don't wear out at the same time (not yet, anyway) so to avoid mixing front and rear I have always ended up sticking with PZeros. On the upside it avoids having to buy four new tyres at the same time.

That said, if the tracking is ok (ish) fronts last twice as long as rears so you have the option at that stage to change brands.

The other option is to get new tyres all round - they are now quite cheap - and keep the fronts for emergency spares. I never liked the P Zeros in low temps so up here they were easy to decide to chop!

 

[StuartW]

Thanks all - I probably have another 1,000 miles or so on these fronts so I'll let you know what I end up with

 

[Mr.Cambio]

That's my experience. Plus the fronts and rears don't wear out at the same time (not yet, anyway) so to avoid mixing front and rear I have always ended up sticking with PZeros. On the upside it avoids having to buy four new tyres at the same time.

On my 4200. i usually buy one complete set and the next year or couple of years, only rears.

 

[tjbakewell]

When I hired my Maserati Gran Turismo last year I needed to change the tyres and everyone I spoke to recommended P Zeros. They are your best bet.

 

[outrun]

The "everyone" you spoke to are incorrect in my humble opinion. I have P Zeros on the Ghibli and it's undriveable safely below 5deg. P Zeros on my 3200, one blew up on the M6 and nearly killed me. P Zeros on my wife's XC60, lethal below 5 deg once worn past halfway and now changed. I have seriously considered changing the Ghibli tyres to CS3 as bigbob is correct in stating, these are now approved "MGT" tyres. I'd change them if money was not a consideration.

Just a quick search of the web will find many poor reviews of them.

That being said, if you driving in warming climates, like our Aussie friends, they are totally fine. It's cold temperatures and standing water that gives the issues.

For me, I will never choose them unless I had no other option.

Personally, I like Vredestein products, Michelin Pilots and Continental. On the XC60 we went for General Grabber GT which I had on the XC90 before and the Touareg r50 before that. Top tyres for heavier, 4WD vehicles. My wife could not believe the difference on the XC60, she was scared to use it on the P Zeros, now she thinks it's transformed.

So there you have it. P Zeros are fine in the warm and dry and scary and dangerous in the wet and cold.

Not used Goodyears so can't comment on them however I suspect they are good too.

 

[StuartW]

My MD has suggested that the only tyres recommended by Maserati are P Zeros and Continental and even then, they should be a specific compound of rubber.

Do you guys think that this particular compound, whatever it might be, is an important factor to consider when replacing your boots? I have heard that the TPMS can play up if you use a different compound as the differing thickness of the rubber can cause the system to malfunction. This is not an issue for me as I do not have it. I have usually bought tyres based on the size and speed rating only.

Thanks all

 

[russellp]

I'm looking for new tyres and have had similar advice (probably from the same source) I am struggling to match front and rear sizes except for PZeros or Michelin Pilot Supersport.
SC3 front only, SC5 rear only.
I spoke to tyresonthedrive and was told they could not get the specific Maserati tyres. Possibly only supplied to MDs.
They recommended Pirelli PZero.
Perversely, I intend to fit the superpsorts based on several review websites.
Baffling isn't it?
Russell

 

[MikeyMaser]

I'm looking for new tyres and have had similar advice (probably from the same source) I am struggling to match front and rear sizes except for PZeros or Michelin Pilot Supersport.
SC3 front only, SC5 rear only.
I spoke to tyresonthedrive and was told they could not get the specific Maserati tyres. Possibly only supplied to MDs.
They recommended Pirelli PZero.
Perversely, I intend to fit the superpsorts based on several review websites.
Baffling isn't it?
Russell

I got Maserati-specific Pirelli P Zeros from a non-MD tyre place:

Front Tyres: Pirelli P Zero XL 245/35/20 95Y IP Code 1638800 Dot Code H388
Rear Tyres: Pirelli P Zero XL 285/35/20 100Y IP Code 1720000 Dot Code J200

The DOT code is important as that is the Maserati-specific compound.

 

[russellp]

Thanks for that information.
AA Tyres also supply the Pirellis for Maserati.
I will probably go for those.
Mobile fitting fronts £176, rears £213.
I will check the dot and IP codes.
Cheers, Russell

 

[bigbob]

I'm looking for new tyres and have had similar advice (probably from the same source) I am struggling to match front and rear sizes except for PZeros or Michelin Pilot Supersport.
SC3 front only, SC5 rear only.
I spoke to tyresonthedrive and was told they could not get the specific Maserati tyres. Possibly only supplied to MDs.
They recommended Pirelli PZero.
Perversely, I intend to fit the superpsorts based on several review websites.
Baffling isn't it?
Russell

I have SC3s front and back. My tyre man can get the right P Zeros easy
enough, **** tyres mind.

 

[StuartW]

Thanks guys.
Bob, did yours come with Pirelli & if so, have you seen an improvement with the Contis?

 

[bigbob]

Thanks guys.
Bob, did yours come with Pirelli & if so, have you seen an improvement with the Contis?

I think so.

 

[sofasurfer]

I hate the P Zeros with a passion. As others have said fine in the dry but lethal in the wet. I may have to invest in a full set of Contis in the autumn.

 

[StuartW]

I'm looking for new tyres and have had similar advice (probably from the same source) I am struggling to match front and rear sizes except for PZeros or Michelin Pilot Supersport.
SC3 front only, SC5 rear only.
I spoke to tyresonthedrive and was told they could not get the specific Maserati tyres. Possibly only supplied to MDs.
They recommended Pirelli PZero.
Perversely, I intend to fit the superpsorts based on several review websites.
Baffling isn't it?
Russell

Le us know how you get on Russell

The problem I have is I don't like P Zeros but I have a pair on the rear that have only done less than 3k miles so they'll be good for another 7k or so.
The P Zeros on the front however are almost shot so can I go ahead and put a different (brand) on the front? I have never mixed & matched on a car like this before - thoughts anyone?

Thanks all

 

[bigbob]

Le us know how you get on Russell

The problem I have is I don't like P Zeros but I have a pair on the rear that have only done less than 3k miles so they'll be good for another 7k or so.
The P Zeros on the front however are almost shot so can I go ahead and put a different (brand) on the front? I have never mixed & matched on a car like this before - thoughts anyone?

Thanks all

I would bite the bullet and buy 4 Contis or Michelins and keep the rear P Zeros as emergency spares. I've had them only last 6-7k miles till they are <4mm and sliding all over the road. Or don't drive the car unless it is 15c+ and dry?

 

[russellp]

I have ordered the Maserati spec. Pirellis from the AA.
I run winter tyres from November to March.
To be honest, I have never had an issue with the PZeros.
There was a debate here recently about the wear rates for these tyres.
Mine have a tread wear rate of 220. Pirelli has supplied much softer tyres in some cases and there were complaints about rapid wear.
The reviews are mixed for all the tyres I have considered.
Either there is more to this tyre technology than meets the eye or it's all smoke and mirrors!
Disappointingly, some tyre providers seem to know very little about their product.
Russell

 

[StuartW]

Fair enough Russell, I am assuming they will be on your shiny new Strad wheels? Pictures please when they're on board!

 

[outrun]

I think we all agree that the Pirellis are fine when the temperature is above 10 or so. If you're running one set all year round, that's when the Pirellis will stand out for being scary on cold, damp roads. My Ghibli on Pirelli moves all over the place, follows white lines and cambers etc until they are warmed up. It's fun but not altogether reassuring!

 

[murph7355]

I'm looking for new tyres and have had similar advice (probably from the same source) I am struggling to match front and rear sizes except for PZeros or Michelin Pilot Supersport.
SC3 front only, SC5 rear only.
I spoke to tyresonthedrive and was told they could not get the specific Maserati tyres. Possibly only supplied to MDs.
They recommended Pirelli PZero.
Perversely, I intend to fit the superpsorts based on several review websites.
Baffling isn't it?
Russell

Let us know how you get on with the Michelins.

I had them on my Aston and have them on the Audi. I think they're a great tyre. Seemed safe in the wet, plenty of grip in the dry and road noise was lower (they replaced Bridgestone and Contis).

Rarely used them in winter so not really sure on cold temp use. Noise might increase with wear too.

I loathe Pirellis. Hated them with a passion in the wet.

 

[stewarttownsend]

I went for the Vredestein Ultrac Vortis on the rear and don't regret it at all, I had already changed the front and kept the P Zeros but if I hadn't I would have had the Vreds all the way round.

Car feels tight to the road and less slippy, feels safer in the wet....generally prefer them.

my two cents