Help needed with snobbery

BennyD

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Interesting thread and well done to all for keeping is civil.

Thats what I like about this forum, the cars may change but the gentlemanly conduct does not.

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It does when d!ckheads like Sparticarse and MAF get involved! :D
 

BennyD

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Personally, I've always preferred Maserati and Aprilia to Ferrari and Ducati.
 

alfatwo

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Used to run a Laverda Jota in the late 70's..used to make all local Triumph's and BSA's look stupid..

I was above my station so everyone thought!

Dave
 

Jkulin

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Owned Ducati's, Aprillia (x2) and Maserati's, yes we all lust after the beautiful 3500's but would I want to drive one when in a long drive to a very important meeting and expect to get there without breaking down, hmm I welcome the new technology and advances.

The heritage is still there, just evolved into hopefully more reliable, desirable cars.

As for diesels, they serve a very important purpose by allowing people to drive the brand more economically, can't be a bad thing :)

BTW oh how envious I am of you Dave owning a Jota, big mean engines that sounded gorgeous, always envious, trust it was in orange rather than the silver, would love one if I knew they could handle and brake around corners!

Just to edit, I own bright green and bright blue trousers, would own a pair of bright red if my outfitters had a pair in stock :):jptongue:
 

midlifecrisis

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The question of what is a Maserati is an old question. The present crop of my fuel efficient V6 turbo engine are different from the previous generation of Ferrari/Maserati V8. Which are in turn different from the V8 Biters engines from the late 70's to late 90's. Each generation can decry the earlier or later versions, personally I got the Maserati because I wanted a V8 first, brand was second. I looked at TVR,Jaguar, Aston Martins when I bought mine. The Maserati then got chosen because of the history. Would I have done the same again... Heck yes.

But diesels.. No!
 

Needamaser

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Used to run a Laverda Jota in the late 70's..used to make all local Triumph's and BSA's look stupid..

I was above my station so everyone thought!

Dave
Laverda like Ducati were big money compared to British and *** stuff.
Just sold a Mirage 1200 which was Jota'ised. Serious grunt and handled. Still have a Mk1 Monty. Poles apart form the big triple but great fun.
 

Dave.

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I'm new to the Maserati marque - still looking for a car to buy - so I don't understand the detail of what is happening but I do know that many people (me included) feel a similar way about Ducati. They have responded to a changing market by competing more directly with the Japanese and the likes of BMW by introducing more models and broadening their appeal. They are selling a lot more bikes as a result but have lost something in the process. I have few of their bikes but wouldn't give a place in my garage to anything they have built in the last 10 years or so.
 

WLJayne

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I have to say, I was impressed by the noise made by the diesel Ghibli I was shown around. Probably the best diesel note I have ever heard to be honest - the sounds of these cars is a big draw for me so it's nice that they've clearly made a huge effort in that regard. As a daily, I think I'd be very happy with one.
 

Needamaser

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From the front or the back?

The rear has a speaker masking the real note.

My diesel Golf has a "Sound Aktor" device which sounds good in the car. Apparently a speaker on the bulkhead. Outside the car it just sounds like a diesel! Dropping the window going under a bridge was a waste of effort.
 

safrane

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Maserati has equipped the Ghibli with what it calls 'sound actuators' in the exhaust. These actuators are comprised of two 40-watt 6.5-inch speakers that sit in the exhaust, replacing the silencers. This means that diesel can sound a lot more like a petrol unit when you plant your foot, and passers-by will get to enjoy it, too.
 

WLJayne

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Just googled it, seems they have fitted two 6.5" 40W speakers in the exhaust system. I have to say, it sounds pretty convincing - certainly fooled me! Well, I suppose there's only so much you can do to make a diesel sound as interesting as the low end grunt you get. This isn't a deal breaker for me, it's a pretty clever solution and it's hard to argue with the quoted 50mpg figure. I'm not looking for a Mas as a daily, but if I was this would be my choice.

EDIT: You got there first xD!
 

keith

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As I have said before this snobbery thing is common. Whilst all relative, I was a Jaguar owner for some twenty years, I felt a sense of snobbery when they introduced the cheaper model XFs, and recently the XE.
For me I benefit from the lower price point of the Ghibli, in order to piggyback from the clearly exotic image of the Maserati brand. The amount o people who are impressed (vane I know) by the fact I have a Maserati never cease to amaze me! Considering all I have is a albeit high spec Ghibli Diesel, or a rival to a common as muck 5 series or E class, most think I have a car that costs £100,000!!! The fact that it produces that wonderful if imitation V8 exhaust growl with no visible Diesel badging just adds to my smugness. ;)
Having owned the car for almost two years without any major issues, and being a pleasure to own drive look at and sit in seals the case for me.
 

midlifecrisis

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Harley's are for fools.

On the issue of speakers in the exhaust? What is the world coming too. It's the equivalent of sticking a cucumber down your pants!