Liking this 3200

Andyk

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Some of you may remember this car...It was for sale in 2010 on MF and came from Ireland...........Back then the chap wanted 14k for it and a few went to see it but it had missing service history and some flaking paint................So for me the original asking price was far too much for a car without full history.........Even now at 15995 still a little high for me as I would expect a full history and in top condition....


Here is the original advert from 2010...

Well, the time has come to part ways with my 2nd Maserati.
29k miles from new, Sept 2001, Mot'd for one year (Northern Ireland MOT which is a lot tougher than the mainland!)
Originally from Stratstone of Wilmslow.
Partial service history, but seems to have been well maintained with receipts for work done.
In my ownership, it has recently (June) had a new clutch (both pressure and driven plates) and propshaft coupling along with new fluids.
Belts were done in June 2008 at 26k miles.
Black with yellow pin striped interior.
Skyhook suspension and all the standard electrics function correctly.
2 black keys and the red key.
Stunning looking and rare in this colour, I have never had such a head turning vehicle!

Car is in Northern Ireland close to both Belfast Airports for viewing, has a little flaking laquer on the front bumper, and wheels are a little scuffed but is priced accordingly.
Personal plate not included but available at an extra cost.
£14000 ono
 

Andyk

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smell a turd. I dont know how you lose service history, it is something you just don't do.

It depends on what your interpretation of service history is I suppose...You see lots of cars advertised with full history and then get there and it hasn't got full history.....If a car has low miles some serive to miles not yearly so will have less stamps in the service book......Should a car that does 4k a year be serviced evey year...?.........

Also the dealer could have tracked down the history through the dealer network so put a new one together....

Yes Dem 2k more.....Plus I bet it didn't sell at asking price last time so will be more.....................Although prices have gone up slightly on good 3200's
 

GransportFan1

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I think with a performance car then yes it should be serviced every year, even though if it only does 4k a year. Lets say if you looked at a Ferrari, was 5 years old and had only done 10k miles, it should have 5 service stamps, i would be a bit cheesed off that if it had 2 stamps.
 

BennyD

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You may feel a bit different when you have to pay for all these services Adam. Why do Ferrari cam belts need changing every 2 years whether you do 2k or 30k miles per year? Will synthetic oil degrade if you only do 2k a year? If so, why does my BM only need oil changes every 18-20k miles irrespective of how long that takes? It is a method of generating income for Italian sports car manufacturers and their franchises.
 

safrane

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Maserati are very protective over their service records...DL gave me print outs after three tries, Meridian would not help at all even with Emblems input...after repeated requests UK HQ cave me a covering letter otherwise my Full Service History would just have been stamps in a book which anyone can forge.
 

lozcb

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Maserati are very protective over their service records...DL gave me print outs after three tries, Meridian would not help at all even with Emblems input...after repeated requests UK HQ cave me a covering letter otherwise my Full Service History would just have been stamps in a book which anyone can forge.


Its easier if you go in person with the car and possibly with the logbook to prove ownership, thye have been had too many times by car dealers trying to put stuff together , i have found especially with dick lovet that they will release the history if you ask them to blank out previous owners details or to ring the previous owner and gain his consent for the release


regards loz
 

Andyk

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You may feel a bit different when you have to pay for all these services Adam. Why do Ferrari cam belts need changing every 2 years whether you do 2k or 30k miles per year? Will synthetic oil degrade if you only do 2k a year? If so, why does my BM only need oil changes every 18-20k miles irrespective of how long that takes? It is a method of generating income for Italian sports car manufacturers and their franchises.

Agree Ian...why do you think Maserati si now 2 year service schedule for owners who do lower miles........Modern cars do not need a service ever year if you don't do the mles...
 

mjheathcote

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Agree Ian...why do you think Maserati si now 2 year service schedule for owners who do lower miles........Modern cars do not need a service ever year if you don't do the mles...

So what's mechanically different between a new Maser with 2 year service schedule doing low annual mileage, and the 4200/GA? Don't think anything!
It used to annoy me with my Elise, had a cam belt change, then 4 years later needed another after doing only 5K miles. But you could say a rubber belt can deteriate with age as well as mileage.
One reason why I bought the 4200 over the 3200, the cost of changing the cam belts with little mileage would annoy me, having a chain, effectively for life, much better!
So who would be happy servicing their Maser every two years if on a low annual mileage? I had my Elise serviced every 2 years by a specialist, no issues, still sold it within 30 minutes on Pistonheads at top price.
 

lozcb

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So what's mechanically different between a new Maser with 2 year service schedule doing low annual mileage, and the 4200/GA? Don't think anything!
It used to annoy me with my Elise, had a cam belt change, then 4 years later needed another after doing only 5K miles. But you could say a rubber belt can deteriate with age as well as mileage.
One reason why I bought the 4200 over the 3200, the cost of changing the cam belts with little mileage would annoy me, having a chain, effectively for life, much better!
So who would be happy servicing their Maser every two years if on a low annual mileage? I had my Elise serviced every 2 years by a specialist, no issues, still sold it within 30 minutes on Pistonheads at top price.


No your right , Maserati through the test of time have realised the 4200 /430 block to be a proven robust design , subsequently and fortunately in comparrison to the other high end marques it has enabled them to compete service wise , Its my opinion that really there is now no need for yearly and mileage servicing one or the other would really suffice only on the 4200 and later ,


regards loz
 

Parisien

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Maybe Loz...but people still like to see the old book stamped up........my mileage service is co-inciding with the annual this year....but getting a few other bits and bobs done too.

Changing the oil and filter in never a chore and not that expensive.


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mjheathcote

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What is the mileage limit on the New Masers to qualify for 2 year servicing?
The question is would indies ever agree, after all it is in their interest to service your car every year even if only a few thousand miles have passed.
 

lozcb

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Maybe Loz...but people still like to see the old book stamped up........my mileage service is co-inciding with the annual this year....but getting a few other bits and bobs done too.

Changing the oil and filter in never a chore and not that expensive.


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Me too Frank i always work it on a yearly basis , my miles is negligable 18K in 3 years for the GS , 19K in 5 years in the 4200 still only on 37K


regards loz
 

Andyk

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So what's mechanically different between a new Maser with 2 year service schedule doing low annual mileage, and the 4200/GA? Don't think anything!
It used to annoy me with my Elise, had a cam belt change, then 4 years later needed another after doing only 5K miles. But you could say a rubber belt can deteriate with age as well as mileage.
One reason why I bought the 4200 over the 3200, the cost of changing the cam belts with little mileage would annoy me, having a chain, effectively for life, much better!
So who would be happy servicing their Maser every two years if on a low annual mileage? I had my Elise serviced every 2 years by a specialist, no issues, still sold it within 30 minutes on Pistonheads at top price.

Most cars old or new doing low miles would be OK with 2 year service intervals...Service is where the money is for dealers....If they said two year service then it would cut revenue by half..............Saying that if you have your new Maserati serviced every two years its not a big saving as the price goes up on a yearly service price...
 

Andyk

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YOu can buy this yellow 3200 direct from the owner as the dealer is on sale or return by the looks of it....Here is what he has said....Could be a good buy now for someone who wants a 3200 in a stand out colour...

This is my car still it has been fully overlooked by marios at auto shield full servis at 29500 mls new cambelt with servis brackes overhalled and skimmed powdercoated wheels and stainless sports pipes all paint orginal but lacker renewed on bumper cluch wear looked at 75%left all worck done by marios at autoshield car in perfect order thanks to autoshield competive price and allways willing to help and advice top men any one interested £12000 no offers.

this is the same car owened by allan it has not been bought for a track day car or used on a track i looked at 6 cars before i bought this one the condition of this car was imaculate in comparison to the others even down to the chrome surrounds around air vents in perfect condtion has full history but only 2 stamps main dealer 2 indy garage 1 by my self as soon as i got it full servis cambelt complete overhall by marios at autoshield given clean bill of health any body who sees will fall for it like i did .