New 4200 Owner..first time roll of the dice..

[Online913127Y]

Hi All, i have just picked up a wonderful 4200 for my first foray into the trident mark.

It’s a non runner at the moment and as won’t turn over but hoping to get it on the road soon after being picked up last week.

Can anyone recommend a decent outdoor car cover?

Thanks all
Kev

 

[joered]

Hi All, i have just picked up a wonderful 4200 for my first foray into the trident mark.

It’s a non runner at the moment and as won’t turn over but hoping to get it on the road soon after being picked up last week.

Can anyone recommend a decent outdoor car cover?

Thanks all
KevView attachment 125900

Wecome to the Forum Kev. Any idea why its a non runner Battery perhaps?

 

[Online913127Y]

Wecome to the Forum Kev. Any idea why its a non runner Battery perhaps?

Thanks Joe…battery is all ok, all the dash lights come on. The previous owner said that it wouldnt select gear at some traffic lights, pushed to a layby and by the time recovery got there it wouldnt even turn over so my guess is electrical and possibly ECU…

 

[spkennyuk]

Hi All, i have just picked up a wonderful 4200 for my first foray into the trident mark.

It’s a non runner at the moment and as won’t turn over but hoping to get it on the road soon after being picked up last week.

Can anyone recommend a decent outdoor car cover?

Thanks all
KevView attachment 125900

Have a look at the storm force website. They do several covers that are custom fit for the 4200.

Range starts at £200 ish to £500 depending on the level of protection you want.

Stormforce outdoor breathable car covers for MASERATI

Stormforce tailored luxury breathable 4 layer premium car cover for Maserati cars. Free cover locking kit & Free UK delivery. Car club discounts available.

www.stormcarcovers.co.uk

 

[joered]

Thanks Joe…battery is all ok, all the dash lights come on. The previous owner said that it wouldnt select gear at some traffic lights, pushed to a layby and by the time recovery got there it wouldnt even turn over so my guess is electrical and possibly ECU…

Well there are quite a few Tec Guys on the Forum so am sure many will help with problems. They are a good set of lads that is when not drunk,or stoned you know the usual!
In Passing the battery on a Maserati is so important and has to be top notch, as all sorts of problems can occur if it is dodgy

 

[Online913127Y]

Well there are quite a few Tec Guys on the Forum so am sure many will help with problems. They are a good set of lads that is when not drunk,or stoned you know the usual!
In Passing the battery on a Maserati is so important and has to be top notch, as all sorts of problems can occur if it is dodgy

Thanks for that….its a car i want to keep for a long time so want to get it right from the start, especially the battery

 

[HTAFC4200]

Deff get a new battery in, otherwise could be F1 pump / relay or both.

Had to change them on mine as mine wouldn't go into gear and then wouldn't start. Had to disconnect the battery and reset before it would restart.

 

[safrane]

Welcome.

Hope you got the car for a decent price.

I would be checking to see if the F1 pump is priming when you open the drivers door. If the pump is off and the car is in gear it will not start.

Other things to check are bonnet shut switch, brake switch and doors closed icon's are off when the doors are shut... theses will prevent you getting a gear if it does start.

There is also a diod in the ignition circuit that can fry if the car has been started or attempted via a jump pack.

Hope it's an easy and cheap fix

 

[spkennyuk]

Hi All, i have just picked up a wonderful 4200 for my first foray into the trident mark.

It’s a non runner at the moment and as won’t turn over but hoping to get it on the road soon after being picked up last week.

Can anyone recommend a decent outdoor car cover?

Thanks all
KevView attachment 125900

Where are you located Kev ?

There may be a forum member somewhere near you with suitable diagnostics tool that can point you in the right direction regards the no start once you have a fresh battery on it.

Shooting in the dark without a dignostic check. Could be as simple as a brake switch fault or faulty T bar to something more serious like a clutch or F1 pump issue and a host of things inbetween.

Once you have a battery on it see if you can actually select a gear first , reverse and neutral with the ignition on but engine off and let us know. It will point us in the right direction of things to check.

Welcome to the forum and Trident custodianship.

 

[DLax69]

Welcome, Kev. As above, if you don't have a good diag tool...get one or phone a friend.

 

[Online913127Y]

Where are you located Kev ?

There may be a forum member somewhere near you with suitable diagnostics tool that can point you in the right direction regards the no start once you have a fresh battery on it.

Shooting in the dark without a dignostic check. Could be as simple as a brake switch fault or faulty T bar to something more serious like a clutch or F1 pump issue and a host of things inbetween.

Once you have a battery on it see if you can actually select a gear first , reverse and neutral with the ignition on but engine off and let us know. It will point us in the right direction of things to check.

Welcome to the forum and Trident custodianship.

Im in Basingstoke. It is in with someone at the moment who is giving it a good going over and will report back on what the issue is

 

[philw696]

Welcome and nice that someone is taking on a Project right from the start.
Have you turned the engine over by hand from the crankshaft pulley and everything feels good ?
Does your mechanic have a remote starter button that can be attached to the starter motor ?
As above a good diagnostic check and check the basics.

 

[nuvolablue]

Welcome. Will be following your journey with this closely. I'm also new here. So nice to see so many forum members chiming in already with helpful advice. Hope it all goes smoothly.

 

[Online913127Y]

Welcome and nice that someone is taking on a Project right from the start.
Have you turned the engine over by hand from the crankshaft pulley and everything feels good ?
Does your mechanic have a remote starter button that can be attached to the starter motor ?
As above a good diagnostic check and check the basics.

Yes he does and is working through things at the moment. He thinks at the moment that the car isnt recognising that it is in Park so it won’t start….watch this space..

 

[spkennyuk]

Yes he does and is working through things at the moment. He thinks at the moment that the car isnt recognising that it is in Park so it won’t start….watch this space..

Check the wiring on the clutch position sensor. You can also interegate the clutch wear and see if your getting an implausible range message or similar depending on the software your using.

If your using launch or similar the there is a gear relearn option.

There isnt a park selection on the F1 gearbox. With the igntion on its either neutral 1st or reverse are your only options. If you can"t get N showing in the display it wont start.

If it is showing 1 and you try to start the car then providing the f1 pump has primed and holding pressure then it should auto select neutral and allow a start.

When you unlock the car and open the drivers door you should hear a wirring noise which is the F1 pump priming. If it doesnt then that needs fault finding first as nothing else upstream will work without the pump working.

 

[Zep]

Check the wiring on the clutch position sensor. You can also interegate the clutch wear and see if your getting an implausible range message or similar depending on the software your using.

If your using launch or similar the there is a gear relearn option.

There isnt a park selection on the F1 gearbox. With the igntion on its either neutral 1st or reverse are your only options. If you can get N showing in the display it wont start.

If it is showing 1 and you try to starr the car then providing the f1 pump has primed and holding pressure then it should auto select neutral and allow a start.

When you unlock the car and ooen the drivers door you should hear a wirring noise which is the F1 pump priming. If it doesnt then that needs fault finding first as nothing else upstream will work without the pump working.

What he said.

It works like this. You turn the key and a relay sends a signal to the gearbox ECU saying it wants to start. The gearbox ECU operates the clutch and gear hydralic valves to open the clutch and put the car in neutral. It then sends 12 volts to a relay under the bonnet which engages the starter and off you go. 9 times out of 10 the issue is the hydraulic pump. The tenth time, we’ll get into if that’s not it!

 

[Online913127Y]

Thanks for that much appreciated…hopefully we don’t get to the 10th!

 

[Online913127Y]

Current update on where we are..battery replaced..F1 fuse blown (unfortunately not the issue!) so replaced, relay for the F1 wasn’t working so got one in transit at the moment…watch this space!

 

[DLax69]

Current update on where we are..battery replaced..F1 fuse blown (unfortunately not the issue!) so replaced, relay for the F1 wasn’t working so got one in transit at the moment…watch this space!

Progress!

 

[Zep]

You should also get a pump. That will be what blew the fuse.