A month (or thereabouts) in

Benmac

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So, I'm now about a month or so in to my tenure of the QP and am I liking it? Oh yes, very much indeed. It is an incredibly “feel good†car and in a peculiar way it is massively relaxing. Yes you can get a proper move on when you want to but quite a lot of the time when I'm in it I'm happy to just cruise along, everything seems less stressful when you're in it and on the motorway I've been happy to travel at a slightly lower speed than I normally would most of the time. There is an element I suppose of being able to think to yourself (in a supercilious tone of course) “I have nothing to prove, off you go Mr. *insert name of most hated repmobile here*â€. It makes me chuckle every time I pull onto the drive in another car and it is sat there.
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Having said that I have had cause to hustle it a couple of times and even on roads that shouldn't be suited to a nearly two ton luxury saloon it really is an impressive thing. The eagerness and directness it shows when turning in really is quite something. In fact, that is one thing I am wondering about. The turn in to me is perhaps a little too sharp. When chucking it about it's great but say on a long sweeping motorway exit it can be a little hard to place at times as it seems a touch too pointy. Grip and communication are imperious but it's just too keen to dive for that apex. Does anyone on here know anything about the geometry set up on them and whether any settings exist to dial that out a little. *The chap who looks after my Lotuses is a whizz with this sort of thing and is mates with a Maserati dealer service manager so I'm sure he'd be able to help but if there is some previous experience here it'd be useful.
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The only other niggle I have is fuelling the thing. No not the frequency with which you need to do it, I was prepared for that but that it's a pain to actually get fuel in it. First couple of times it was fine, “stuff, nozzle in, pull trigger, wait until it clicks, look at the gauge on the pump and wince a little, go and payâ€. Now however the nozzle doesn't seem to want to go fully in and you then need to be careful with the angle of it otherwise the pump just clicks off all the time. Annoying in the extreme. Have I maybe dislodged something? It looks fine if you peer down the hole and the sprung flap seems OK.
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I have been wondering too whether these things somehow attract each other. I took it to London a couple of weeks ago and while parked up in Hyde Park I returned to it to find this
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And then yesterday at a meeting I was idly looking for a space in the hotel car park and the only decent one available happened to be next to this.
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Parisien

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Lovely musings Ben...certianly you've bonded with your Italian mistress.......looking good and in place too when you park up.......there is a qantum physics theory about Maserati gravitational pull to other Tridents, but its not fully proven.........however anecdotally in your case it seems to be validated....;)

Keep enjoying her, sorry no help with other queries!


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maserati

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Hi Benmac,

Congratulations on your purchase. Some of the most stylish people I know own a Quattroporte! .....he he he. With regards to the handling characteristics. Assuming the suspension, wheels and tyres are in good order then attention needs to be turned to the steering geometry. For optimum performance and even tyre wear the settings are critical. The adjustments cannot be done effectively at a local garage even if they have laser equipment. A 'Hunter' equipped specialist is needed to carry out alignment on all four wheels. (Yes the QP rear wheels are adjustable) All levels including the petrol tank should be full. Excess luggage should be removed. The garage will place weights in the footwells and follow a comprehensive check of the geometry including caste,r camber toe in etc. Mine was last checked in May by Chritschurch Tyres. The process took one and a half hours and cost £72.00. A main agent could also undertake this for you.

With regards to fuelling. Try placing the nozzle of the pump upside down into the filler. That is to say with the pump trigger pointing skywards.

Regards,

Paul
 

npaskin

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Benmac, hello from another enthusiastic QP owner, equally recent – had mine since the start of August, and I agree with you on the driving style it induces. What a pleasure. I almost bought a Blue/Avorio one too but was swayed when I saw the S I now have. I haven’t noticed a problem with over keen turn in, but then I wouldn’t claim to be the most technical driver…it’s sharper than a Range Rover :) . However I also have found the fuel filler problem, at least mildly: I’ve filled up 4 or 5 times so far, and once had the problem you describe but it was solved simply by changing the nozzle angle (holding it as near horizontal as possible helped). I don’t think this is specific to QPs, I’ve had it with a few other cars I’ve hired, and I think a lot depends on the pumping rate (at my local garage, if someone is using the nozzle on the other side of the shared pump, then the rate of fill drops and the problem also disappears). Maybe try with a few different pumps and see if the problem is consistent. The Maserati gravitational pull doesn’t seem to work in this area – seem to be few about, I know of only one other QP in Oxford.
 

Benmac

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Thanks all, I do like this place.

Looks like I may need to just put up with the duelling then. Oh well.

Yes, looking like it needs a good geometry set up then. My chap has all the required kit to do a proper corner weighting job so I'll have a word there. My exile is hugely sensitive to setup and it can go awry fairly easily on that so I support this may well be similar.
 

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I have replied, I take it you have tried to put the filler nozzle in up side down? (Trigger facing up)

This is what I have been doing for years, what with owning Italian cars and all that, you might be surprised.
 

Andyk

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So glad you are loving the QP...Such a great car and one of Maserati's best over the years.....Oh and loving the yellow GT...
 

Simon

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Thanks all, I do like this place.

Looks like I may need to just put up with the duelling then. Oh well.

Yes, looking like it needs a good geometry set up then. My chap has all the required kit to do a proper corner weighting job so I'll have a word there. My exile is hugely sensitive to setup and it can go awry fairly easily on that so I support this may well be similar.

The QP uses shims for setting up the suspension geometery, over time or after potholes things can move out of line.

My observations with my QP over 3 years are;

Steering is quite light and you could describe the car as twitchy which means very tight bends/hairpins can be done at ease. At HIGH speeds on long bends eg slip roads this may be a bit disconcerting.

When turning quick and hard you feel slight roll then a firming up of the suspension as though it has suddenly gone hard. Its as if the car has suddenly dug into the tarmac. (Skyhook kicking in)

Running over white lines at speed seems to make the car kick out a little, as though it does a little wiggle.

Had similar episodes with the fuel filler, seems pump specific, once ended up putting £3 in at Tesco.

Noticed you live in Cheshire, the tunnel under the runway at Manchester airport is a good run with the windows down (drop to 25mph in 2nd then hit it).

Let me know how you get on with the geometery set up.

Simon
 

Benmac

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I have replied, I take it you have tried to put the filler nozzle in up side down? (Trigger facing up)

This is what I have been doing for years, what with owning Italian cars and all that, you might be surprised.


Yep, I've been turning it pretty much through 360 degrees and destroying any hope of looking cool while filling it up in the process. Turned through about 100 degrees to the rear of the car it seems better but still not perfect. Hey ho.

Simon, ta for that. Your description of the handling sounds exactly as I'm experiencing. Good to know it's probably ok. It'll be nice to know it's perfect though once done.

Funny you should mention the Airport tunnels. The pic with the black GT was taken at the radisson at the airport and I gave an old colleague who was there a quick demo run. Can you guess where I went? :-D
 
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bigbob

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Tunnels are always great. Too few of them around though in the UK.

On the steering front, I found my 3200 to be scarily light, the 4200 was a reasonable improvement but the GranTurismo is much heavier - suits me. I wonder if the facelift QP is similar?
 

Simon

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I've test driven a GTS MC-Shift and the steering feel was noticeably firmer/heavier than my QP but I can't say about the facelift QP. I wonder if there is a mod to make the steering feel heavier?