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The Oxford jab approval should make a big difference to the speed of roll out of the vaccination programme, as long as the manufacturing capacity is there - not just for the medication but also for the ancillaries such as vials, needles and syringes etc. The key difference is the ease of storage; it’s just the same as for flu shots and GP practices have a wealth of experience of organising these local campaigns successfully over the years.
From a purely public health p.o.v. (i.e. greatest good for the greatest number of people), the decision to delay second jabs seems justified. I know, explicit trial evidence for this is lacking, but basic immunological principles established with other vaccines suggest that a late 2nd jab should work.
The great fear about just shielding the vulnerable and letting Covid rip through the rest of the population is that it is now so infectious that the eventually huge number of ill people will prevent the delivery of even the most basic of community services. There could well be too few workers left on their feet to stock supermarket shelves, run water treatment plants, keep power stations going, police the streets etc. This may sound alarmist, but you only have to look at the nearly exponential rate of rise of case numbers in London to see that it’s a real risk.
I don’t often say it, but I’m with the powers that be on this one.
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I have not doubt that GP's will organise well, but surely it would have been beneficial to organise mass vaccination sites and use armed forces/St John's etc to give jabs. Leaving medical practitioners to get on with the day to day issues. Also give it to the teens to 25 Yr old that are incapable of wearing masks or SD because they think they are immune! To my simple mind, that would drastically reduce the spread.
 
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Gazcw said:
School shutdowns I bet.
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There is nothing else left.
After the first lockdown most shops have deemed themselves essential for the subsequent shutdowns.
Puds and restaurants already closed.
People generally took it seriously the first time, but subsequent lockdowns haven't been taken seriously in my opinion.
 
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DrDavid said:
The Oxford jab approval should make a big difference to the speed of roll out of the vaccination programme, as long as the manufacturing capacity is there - not just for the medication but also for the ancillaries such as vials, needles and syringes etc. The key difference is the ease of storage; it’s just the same as for flu shots and GP practices have a wealth of experience of organising these local campaigns successfully over the years.
From a purely public health p.o.v. (i.e. greatest good for the greatest number of people), the decision to delay second jabs seems justified. I know, explicit trial evidence for this is lacking, but basic immunological principles established with other vaccines suggest that a late 2nd jab should work.
The great fear about just shielding the vulnerable and letting Covid rip through the rest of the population is that it is now so infectious that the eventually huge number of ill people will prevent the delivery of even the most basic of community services. There could well be too few workers left on their feet to stock supermarket shelves, run water treatment plants, keep power stations going, police the streets etc. This may sound alarmist, but you only have to look at the nearly exponential rate of rise of case numbers in London to see that it’s a real risk.
I don’t often say it, but I’m with the powers that be on this one.
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Thank you for an informed opinion, Dr D. Very much welcomed.
 
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Extension of T4 areas
Further limits on how many can be in your bubbles
Close all gyms
Not permitted to more than x miles from home
Evening curfews

There is lots that could be done... but will the covidiots follow the rules?
 
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Well Jeanette as literally just had the email asking: All non-clinical nurses to attend/work at Queens Hospital (local) within the Health Authority. As a Health Visitor + she fits that description but she hasn't nursed on a ward for > 25 years. It is likely to be a stepping stone to the Nightingale. Let's see what the evening brings eh?
 
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safrane said:
Extension of T4 areas
Further limits on how many can be in your bubbles
Close all gyms
Not permitted to more than x miles from home
Evening curfews

There is lots that could be done... but will the covidiots follow the rules?
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Been doing that for months here in France apart from the Christmas exemptions allowing us a bit of freedom but it was for one day only.
Waiting for today's numbers as I type.
 
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Gazcw said:
I have not doubt that GP's will organise well, but surely it would have been beneficial to organise mass vaccination sites and use armed forces/St John's etc to give jabs. Leaving medical practitioners to get on with the day to day issues. Also give it to the teens to 25 Yr old that are incapable of wearing masks or SD because they think they are immune! To my simple mind, that would drastically reduce the spread.
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I have got the hates on for the scummy little muck spreaders at the moment particularly the ones that invade a church near Brentwood for a rave and bloody destroy the place.
Give them the vaccine, I'd rather give them a bullet!
 
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Full lockdown from midnight tonight, Laura Kuenssberg doesn't often get it wrong. That is what she just tweeted a few minutes ago.
 
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Gazcw said:
I have not doubt that GP's will organise well, but surely it would have been beneficial to organise mass vaccination sites and use armed forces/St John's etc to give jabs.
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They have certainly engaged with St John’s.

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