MarkMas
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what about yellow snow?
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what about yellow snow?
Or maybe
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Hi, slowly on the mend thanks.Hi Wattie
Hope your health is still improving. I don't know what the virus levels are in your neck of the woods but because of the problems you have had I would have thought it prudent to have the jab, I know I will have it at the first opportunity.
With respect would you mind sharing your reasons, because by all accounts it's pretty safe.
There is also the dilemma of those who have an over active autoimmune system. I have so, and have immunosuppressant injections twice a month. This has the effect of knocking my immune system for 6.If you have a reduced or suppressed immune system a traditional vaccine isn’t much use as your body can’t make the antibodies required. I’d imagine there’s scales to that.
Yep......like they will stick to any restrictions in Scotland for Hogmanay....
I can’t understand the reasoning behind letting loads of people mix over Xmas....deepest darkest winter, everyone indoors, pubs etc, homes, travel home, mix with another 3 families....
Graphs upward again I suspect.....
There is also the dilemma of those who have an over active autoimmune system. I have so, and have immunosuppressant injections twice a month. This has the effect of knocking my immune system for 6.
It also knocks you about with side effects for a week once a month but it's worth it on balance.
Absurdly the immune reduction makes me several orders of magnitude time more likely to pick something up, and regularly do, and then the impact is often severe even which for others, would be mild infections. Perversely my overactive T cells then take over, kick in and the fight begins.
When having to attend hospital earlier this year I travelled up the M5 with hardly a sole save for a campervan full of people pulled over by police. I was surrounded by 4 barriered nurses forming a human shield when moving from one (completely empty) ward to another.
This month? Motorway jammed and nobody taking any cognisance of advice. Nor anywhere. Pretty pre pandemic behaviour.
So when observing the compliance or otherwise with precautions, I'm not in control of others behaviour. Therefore my approach is rigorously defensive. I'll only go somewhere where I am in control of proximity and concentration. In other words where I can move away or avoid.
It does mean that I hardly ever go out.
My circle is limited in the extreme and only see one other person outside the household who takes the same precautions. Our joint risk is vanishing small.
Restaurant? Fuff. I forgot to take the usual packed eating supplies last month when meeting this flying buddy. Our blood sugars were low after the flight. So we thought we would see what a pub/restaurant that we had used before was like.
Met at the door. Temperatures taken, Q code logged and sanitizer. Showed to the seats.
Absolutely no concessions at all. Layout was pre-pandemic, proximity to next table less than half a meter. I can't control that. Didn't bother staying long enough to observe their handling and cleaning.
I was shaking not only with anxiety but anger. Just ticking boxes.
So when I hear the complaint of reduced civil liberties and pleas for crummy establishments to open I just think of the long extension of my isolation and society more or less saying 'f0ck you, Robin '.
The hope of new immunisation vaccine is good. It's doubtful if I can safely take advantage of it. I already have raging T cells.
Forgive me. I don't usually rant and usually try to contribute something absurd here.
And I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm happily very occupied with interests that I pursue in relative safe isolation.
I'd just like to remind us all that we need an altruistic society. Our collective responsibility is to all
Robin
Oh I don’t know. I don’t do politics but listening to the dozy response from the opposition after the spending summary today I was quite bewildered.How are they going to stop it
the chances of a Conservative win at the next election must be remote so they probably don't want to go down as the government that banned Christmas 2020 as well.
Christmas or new year ! we have all been given an option, and basically that is what it has come down to. Stand back, look around, work out what your personal priorities are and go for it. If you or your elderly relatives get Covid over Christmas do not blame the government, blame your personal decisions.How are they going to stop it
the chances of a Conservative win at the next election must be remote so they probably don't want to go down as the government that banned Christmas 2020 as well.
Christmas or new year ! we have all been given an option, and basically that is what it has come down to. Stand back, look around, work out what your personal priorities are and go for it. If you or your elderly relatives get Covid over Christmas do not blame the government, blame your personal decisions.
Exactly, my FIL thoughts. He said I’m 80 (in December) if I get it, so what, I’ve had a good innings, and I don’t want to go in a home to be fed and have my **** wiped anyway. He’s coming for Xmas lunch.....he’s heard about my growing single malt collection....Or alternatively, let your elderly (adult) relatives make the decision. Both mine and Mrs C's parents are all aware that they are gradually becoming less compos mentis. They are also of an age where there is a significant chance that none of them will be around next year, even without COVID. So for us to decide it's too risky for them to see us is frankly perverse.
C
Exactly, my FIL thoughts. He said I’m 80 (in December) if I get it, so what, I’ve had a good innings, and I don’t want to go in a home to be fed and have my **** wiped anyway. He’s coming for Xmas lunch.....he’s heard about my growing single malt collection....
Little point in current 'lockdown ' if minimal compliance. Just prolongs the curve at a quiesant relatively abnormal level.In an ideal world what would you like to happen ? March / April style lockdown , how long for
Little point in current 'lockdown ' if minimal compliance. Just prolongs the curve at a quiesant relatively abnormal level.
The economic cost is the area under the curve. Relatively short hard clamp or long drawn out benign optional compliance.
Balance of business suffering
Little point in current 'lockdown ' if minimal compliance. Just prolongs the curve at a quiesant relatively abnormal level.In an ideal world what would you like to happen ? March / April style lockdown , how long for
Fair enough, just saying we can not blame the government for providing this recess in the regulations, it’s up to us all as to how we manage it, whether the decision is made by the elderly or the younger generation. It’s the general public’s decision to be made wisely, if that’s possible.Or alternatively, let your elderly (adult) relatives make the decision. Both mine and Mrs C's parents are all aware that they are gradually becoming less compos mentis. They are also of an age where there is a significant chance that none of them will be around next year, even without COVID. So for us to decide it's too risky for them to see us is frankly perverse.
C